[topcat54]

The woman who bears Christ in Revelations fled into the desert. The woman who actually bore Christ fled into Egypt. You don't suppose there's a connection between Egypt and the desert, do you?

Problem is the text of Revelation does not support your conclusion.

5 And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne. 6 Then the woman fled into the wilderness where she had a place prepared by God, so that there she would be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days.

Note the progression of events; birth of the child, ascension to God, fleeing to the wilderness.

Unlike the story of Jesus, Mary, and Joseph going to Egypt, the only character mentioned in Rev. 12 in the wilderness is the woman. Rev. 12 actually matches the warning of Jesus to his church in places like Luke 21 that when they saw Jerusalem surrounded by armies they were to "flee to the mountains".

You RCs have to learn that you can't have it both ways. Either argue from the Bible or trust in church dogma, but don't try to mix the two cuz you'll get bit when they don't match. And then you are forced by your dogma to rely on your dogma alone.

[Campion]

Note the progression of events; birth of the child, ascension to God

Where in the Bible does Jesus ascend to God as a child?

Oh, wait, you mean this is prophecy and things like temporal sequences aren't always to be taken hyper-literally?

[dangus]

Prophecies use something that the people can relate to, and teach what that recent-past event has to tell about the ultimate ends of things. So, no, Mary was never swept up by an eagle, either. DUH. But Mary is the mother of Jesus. And her faithful submission to God is something we all must learn, and which the Church as a whole does. So when the church submits itself to God, and brings forth Christ, its experiences have commonalities to Mary's. These commonalities are illustrated in the symbolic language of Revelations 12.

>> Rev. 12 actually matches the warning of Jesus to his church in places like Luke 21 that when they saw Jerusalem surrounded by armies they were to "flee to the mountains". <<

Yes, it probably does.

>> You RCs have to learn that you can't have it both ways. Either argue from the Bible or trust in church dogma, but don't try to mix the two cuz you'll get bit when they don't match. And then you are forced by your dogma to rely on your dogma alone.<<

No, you are just too ignorant and narrow-minded to understand them. Ultimately, Catholic doctrines are so difficult as to require grace to believe in them. But in your case, ignorance and narrow-mindedness seem to be sufficient explanations, given that you can make a statement such as that. Good bye.