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Anti-Marian verses

******************* Mother of God *************

Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

I had to add Gen 3 to build on mat 11:11. Both show that Jesus is not of Mary's seed since here we see that seed does NOT mean physical seed. If it did it would have to mean that for the serpent too.

Mat: 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

In other words He is not of Mary. She is not His mother genetically. He did not come from one of her eggs. Sure he came through her but he is not of her.

Mat 12:46-50 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Mark 3:31-35 There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.
And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for the.
and he answered them, saying, who is my mother, or my brethren?
And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother and my sister, and mother.

Luke 11:27,28 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare these and the paps which thou has sucked.
but he said, Yea rather , blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

Gal 4:22-31:
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. 26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

Notice that there really is a mother of the church and it isn't Mary! Once again Mary is not even mentioned.

Heb 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisdec.

Heb 7: 1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;
2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;
Heb 7:3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Melchizedek is a type of Christ and is a priest of a higher order than Aaron. His priesthood is typified by being based on merit and not on blood and it is an eternal priesthood. This verse shows that in the sense of Jesus has no mother or father. Jesus has no mother or father physically like Melchizedek but in what sense if the Father His Father? We know that Jesus was not created so it is really positionally that the Father is His Father. This shows that the whole idea and title of "Mother of God" is anti-scriptural. b>

*************** Ever Virgin *************

Mat 1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

Normal reading of this says they had sex after she bore the Lord.

*********** Queen of Heaven *********

Jer 7:18 The children gather wood, the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven; and they pour out drink offerings to other gods, that they may provoke Me to anger.

Jer 44:19 The women also said, "And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven and poured out drink offerings to her, did we make cakes for her, to worship her, and pour out drink offerings to her without our husbands' permission?"

Jer 44:25 Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, saying: "You and your wives have spoken with your mouths and fulfilled with your hands, saying, "We will surely keep our vows that we have made, to burn incense to the queen of heaven and pour out drink offerings to her." You will surely keep your vows and perform your vows!'

Mat 22: 25 Now there were with us seven brethren: and the first, when he had married a wife, deceased, and, having no issue, left his wife unto his brother:
26 Likewise the second also, and the third, unto the seventh.
27 And last of all the woman died also.
28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Mark 12:22

Luke 20:29

The fact that we are not given in marriage in heaven is repeated 3 times and usually with an exhortation about knowing the scriptures. The only reference to a queen of heaven is of a pagan idol. The rational for Mary being the Bride of the Holy Spirit is removed because we are not given in marriage in Heaven. The idea of her being Queen mother in heaven doesn’t work because if we don’t have wives in heaven, we don’t have kids in heaven. The Idea of Mary being the Mother of God and the wife of the Holy Spirit and the recipient of prayers makes her the 4th part of a man made quadiny.

****** Verses about Mary being assumed into heaven *****

None

******* Verses about Immaculate Conception of Mary *****

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

******* Verses about Mary distributing Grace ******

None

******* Verses that say to pray to dead people ******

None

>> I had to add Gen 3 to build on mat 11:11. Both show that Jesus is not of Mary's seed since here we see that seed does NOT mean physical seed. If it did it would have to mean that for the serpent too. <<

It PRECISELY is a reference to Christ! "Her seed" refers to Jesus, who crushes the head of the Serpent!

>>In other words He is not of Mary. She is not His mother genetically. He did not come from one of her eggs. Sure he came through her but he is not of her. <<

To deny that He is not of her genes is to say that he is not of her flesh; and by saying that, you say that he is not of anyone's flesh. Yet, he repeatedly calls himself, "the Son of Man." You have denied the human nature of Christ! Please be careful using your own reasoning to construct arguments, for you are denying basic doctrines which are held by ALL those who proclaim to be Christian.

The passages of Matthew and Mark 3 answer the problem posed by John 19 ("Behold your mother"): We may ask, "If we ARE commanded to behold our Mother, how can we, for she is not with us?" Thus we receive the answer that we do so by obeying the Church. YOu are playing one passage from scripture off another one; that means you don't understand either. Surely scripture does reserve a special place for Mary:
"Hail thee, full of Grace, the Lord is with thee... Blessed are tou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb."
"From age to age, all nations shall call me blessed."
"And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars."

>> This verse shows that in the sense of Jesus has no mother or father. <<

No, this passage is talking about Christ, which does not proceed either from the Father, or from any flesh. Using the passage the way you use it, you could not call Jesus the Son of God, either. But, God the Son is the Son of God the Father, and since both his natures are joined in one person, God the Son is also Son of the Mother of God, who is the Daughter of Adam (Man), hence, God the Son is the Son of Man.

I suspect the Protestant reformers would rend their shirts, beat their chests and gnash their teeth, screaming in horror if they could foresee that they would eventually lead their flock into such grave and horrible beliefs!

>> Normal reading of this says they had sex after she bore the Lord.<<

Normal reading of an English translation, that is. Even in English "till" doesn't necessarily mean the exclusion of persistence. "We have to stay awake until midnight" does not mean that you must sleep after midnight. What is conveyed here is the miraculous nature of a virgin birth, not the expression of when they began to have sex. Had it been the way you read it, it would say "until AFTER they she gave birth," or else it would imply they began having sex almost immediately after she gave birth!

>> Queen of Heaven <<

Mixing metaphors. Isaiah 14 calls Satan "the morning star." (Lucifer, or Phosphorus.) Yet, Revelations 2 and 22 call Christ himself that.

>> Verses about Mary being assumed into Heaven: none <<

Read Revelations 12. But, yes, that was prophecy: It hadn't happened yet.

>> Verses about praying to dead people: none <<

Yes, thanks to Martin Luther. After he lost a debate about the existence of purgatory, Luther struck 14 books of the bible, including 7 New Testament books, insisting they must not be authentic. Note, unlike modern protestants, he did not say he did not believe in them because they were not authentic, but rather that he could not believe in them because they were not authentic. Only because of Calvinists and Anglicans did the 7 New Testament books work their way back into the Protestant bible.

In one of the books, 2 Maccabees, the Feast of the Dedication is established, as a result of prayers to dead people. But Luther could not completely erase the truth, for the gospels themselved depict Jesus attending the Temple for that feast. If praying for the dead is evil, why would the gospels have recorded Jesus in the context of a feast day which flowed from such an evil?

>> Verses about Mary distributing Grace: none<<

YOu have already forgotten, or ignored, what I said about John 2: Jesus converted water into wine, the symbol of his mercy, forgiveness and redeptive death, at the bequest of his mother.

>>The Idea of Mary being the Mother of God and the wife of the Holy Spirit and the recipient of prayers makes her the 4th part of a man made quadiny. <<

Mary is not the wife of the Holy Spirit. She is not part of a quadiny for several reasons. She was created by God; The trinity are not created. Being a recipient of prayers does not make one part of the trinity. Try filing a lawsuit; you will find it said that you have "prayed" to the court. She is Mother of God not in the sense that she created God, for plainly God pre-existed her, but only in that she gave birth to God.

If you are afraid that that last point endangers confusion (that Catholics think that Mary created God), I would suggest interviewing 100,000 Catholics participating in Marian observances. Even among the wierdes superstition-tainted, third-world, illiterate peoples, you will not find one who believes that Mary was not created by God.