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To: drstevej
If I had an electronic version of Holy Water, I'd spray those pictures. What an unholy triumvirate. Nonetheless, they all had valid, licit Holy Orders (as did the Satanic Father Paul Shandley of current infamy and many others dating all the way back to JUDAS). While they are an ugly and rhetorically effective riposte, they actually are an illogical form of argument. It is a form of error in category -- essentially you appear to be arguing that, because some Men of the Cloth are evil (an unquestionable truth) AND because the examples you posit are Catholic, that therefore all men of the Cloth are equal. It could also be argued you are using both a non-sequiter and a straw man argument. Well done, but neither persuasive nor responsive. :)
6 posted on 04/14/2004 9:05:34 PM PDT by narses (If you want OFF or ON my Catholic Ping list, please email me. +)
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To: narses
Protestant churches and their pastors are not any less legitimate than the Catholic Church. To say so is really a form of bigotry.
8 posted on 04/14/2004 9:08:32 PM PDT by GeronL (Dr. Pepper Fiend)
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To: narses; OrthodoxPresbyterian
Kaspar and Mahony are Cardinals in full communion with the bishop of Rome. The point goes not only to their character but their continued presence in their office.

I did not add the oft posted picture of the present vicar kissing a Koran. I believe OP has made a persuasice argument for the blasphemy of such an action.

Judas laid no claim to be the vicar of Christ. Judas was denounced by Christ as a devil. The current vicar tolerates and appoints such men as pictured.

11 posted on 04/14/2004 9:13:20 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: narses
'spose one could also post a painting of King David - an adulterer and a murderer - thereby suggesting the Lord's Covenant with him was rendered nugatory due to David's infamous sins.

However, the issue is authority not impeccability or the faithful discharge of that Divinely-Constitued authority.

73 posted on 04/15/2004 6:02:59 AM PDT by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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