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Posted on 04/02/2004 8:25:09 AM PST by TBP

1st Corinthians, Chapter 12:

4 Now there are diversities of gifts but there is only one Spirit. 5 And there are diversities of ministries, but there is only one Lord. 6 And there are diversities of powers, but it is the One God who works all things in all people. 7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every person as help. 8 For to one is given by Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit. 9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophesy; to another the means to distinguish the true Spirit; to another different languages; to another the interpretations of languages. 11 But all of these gifts are wrought by that one and the same Spirit, dividing to every one severally as he will. 12 For as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, even though many, are one body, so also is Christ. 13 For all of us are baptized by one Spirit into one body, whether Jews or Arameans, whether bond or free; and we have all received through the one Spirit. 14 The body is not one member, but many. 15 For if the foot should say, Because I am not the hand, I am not a part of the body; is it therefore not a member of the body? 16 And if the ear should say, Because I am not the eye, I am not a part of the body; is it therefore not a member of the body? 17 If the whole body were eyes, where would hearing be? And if the whole were hearing, where would smelling be? 18 But now God has set every member in the body, as it has pleased him. 19 If they were all one member, where would the body be? 20 But now they are many members, yet but one body. 21 The eye cannot say to the hand, I have no need of you; nor can the head say to the feet, I have no need of you. 22 But rather those members of the body which are considered to be delicate are necessary.


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Here is the Book of Corinthians talking about hwo essential every person is (To quote A Course in Miracles, "The Universe itself would be incomplete without you.") and saying that God is in everyone. Yet mainstream Christianity seems to teach otherwise. It teaches a deepdualist philosophy -- God out there, but never in nhere. (Might threaten the exalted position of the hierarchy.)

How do you reconcile this teaching with this Biblical verse?

1 posted on 04/02/2004 8:25:10 AM PST by TBP
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2 posted on 04/02/2004 8:29:42 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Don't be a nuancy boy)
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To: TBP
Could you rephrase everything you've just said and asked. I'm not getting it....???
3 posted on 04/02/2004 8:52:02 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: TBP; 4ConservativeJustices
Uh-h-h-h, 1 Corinthians 12!!!!

Somebody slappin' you upside-the-head, boy!??

4 posted on 04/02/2004 8:52:32 AM PST by Ff--150 (John 7:37-38)
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To: xzins
What part aren't you getting?

Mainstream Christianity teaches separation -- God out there somewhere, not directly contactable by us. Yet these verses clearly say that God is in All, as All, through All.
5 posted on 04/02/2004 9:03:08 AM PST by TBP
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To: TBP
Mmmmmm.

Could you give us a quote from Mainstream Christianity?

6 posted on 04/02/2004 9:07:20 AM PST by siunevada
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To: TBP
I'm not getting any of it.

What part are you talking about??? I don't get the "as All" stuff.

It would help me if you would spell out what you're saying in a statement or 3.
7 posted on 04/02/2004 9:12:21 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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The apostle Paul was writing to believers when he wrote this, hence they were people who had received the Spirit and had been baptized into the body of Christ, which is the church. They all had a role to play in the church to perfect the will of God as He commands. This position of being united to Christ in one body is not enjoyed by people who are outside of the grace of God, refusing to submit to his will.

It was God's will for man to multiply and populate the earth, and in this sense all men are complying to God's will, being created in the womb and given the opportunity to know God and worship him. The problem is that there is much more to God's will than this, and man will be held accountable for rejecting God on other grounds.
8 posted on 04/02/2004 9:13:36 AM PST by man of Yosemite ("When a man decides to do something everyday, that's about when he stops doing it.")
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***Mainstream Christianity teaches separation -- God out there somewhere, not directly contactable by us. Yet these verses clearly say that God is in All, as All, through All.***

Paul also wrote in Ephesians...

"...remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who o­nce were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.

For he himself is our peace, who has made the two o­ne and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself o­ne new man out of the two, thus making peace, and in this o­ne body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. For through him we both have access to the Father by o­ne Spirit.
Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God's people and members of God's household, built o­n the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone."

To get a complete picture of the truth of the Bible you must look at more than o­ne passage.

9 posted on 04/02/2004 9:38:15 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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Answer a question for me.

Is God infinite? If so, isn't God everywhere? If that is true, then how could it be possible to be separate from God?

The truth is that we can't be. God is Omniscient, Omnipotent, and Omnipresent.
10 posted on 04/02/2004 10:24:55 AM PST by TBP
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***Is God infinite? If so, isn't God everywhere? If that is true, then how could it be possible to be separate from God?***

Do you accept the Bible as the inspired, inerrant and authoritative word of God?
11 posted on 04/02/2004 10:58:40 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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Do you accept the Bible as the inspired, inerrant and authoritative word of God?

No, the Bible is a human-compiled translation of a translation of a translation, a centuries-long game of telephone, so to speak. Certain sections were deliberately left out, others deliberately included to support a particular interpretaiton of the Cosmos.

12 posted on 04/02/2004 11:08:32 AM PST by TBP
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translation of a translation of a translation, a centuries-long game of telephone, so to speak.

You're ignorant.

13 posted on 04/02/2004 11:13:37 AM PST by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: TBP
Did you locate that citation from Mainstream Christianity yet?
14 posted on 04/02/2004 11:13:54 AM PST by siunevada
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To: A.J.Armitage
Now, there is a logical argument!

Is God infinite? Yes or no? Let's see if you can answer the question rather than slipping immeidately into ignorant name-calling like a liberal.
15 posted on 04/02/2004 11:17:19 AM PST by TBP
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***No, the Bible is a human-compiled translation of a translation of a translation, ***

Then why are you using something you don't trust as the basis for an argument about the nature of God?
16 posted on 04/02/2004 11:17:31 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: TBP
Now, there is a logical argument!

It's a statement of fact. If you weren't ignorant, you wouldn't have made the assertion you did.

Is God infinite? Yes or no?

Define "infinite".

17 posted on 04/02/2004 11:25:24 AM PST by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
There is much wisdom in the Bible, and I never said I ddin't trust it. It is, however, not inerrant any more than any other theological book. In certain points, it contradicts itself. And it is clearly designed to supprt the theology of th hierarchy.

Nonetheless, the sayings of Jesus and much of what the Apostles did provide much inspiration and wisdom for all of us today.

And I make use of the Bible because Christians claim to believe in it, so I wanted to kick off a discussion by quoting from it.

However, when the Bible seems to say something that the heirarchical, mainstream Christianity doesn't support, it has to be spun and interpreted to fit. This is called "inerrancy."

"The world has never followed the simple teachings of Jesus, yet it is loud in its proclamation that it is Christian." -- Dr. Ernest Holmes.
18 posted on 04/02/2004 11:27:07 AM PST by TBP
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the Bible is a human-compiled translation of a translation of a translation, a centuries-long game of telephone, so to speak. Certain sections were deliberately left out, others deliberately included to support a particular interpretaiton of the Cosmos.

You need to brush up on the scientific discipline of textual criticism.
Science disagrees with your premise. Science actually shows that the words we have today are undeniably, astoundingly close to very ancient texts.
19 posted on 04/02/2004 11:27:23 AM PST by FactQuest
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To: TBP
However, when the Bible seems to say something that the heirarchical, mainstream Christianity doesn't support, it has to be spun and interpreted to fit.

I'm a Baptist.

I think you're nuts.

20 posted on 04/02/2004 11:31:33 AM PST by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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