There is no mystery here Dave, either God knows or He doesn't. If He does know than you have the same problem you accuse us Calvinists of having.
If you say He doesn't know, well, you have bigger problems and the Office for the Propagation of the Faith may be knocking on your door someday. ;^)
What I do not do is deny that we have a free will. Everyone I believe God puts in hell has made free, truly free choices that have resulted in that.
I believe God somehow allows us to be truly free. I can't explain it. But to make God the decider of everything is to make God responsible for sin and death and for the unjust damnatino of people who are only doing God's will and being the creatures God made them to be.
I don't think you will find a single Calvinist on this thread that disagrees with you. Those who end up in Hell end up there of their own Free Will. Those who end up with God in Eternity do so of their own Free Will.
The only difference between the two is God's Grace. On one undeserving group He bestowed Grace. On the other undeserving group He did not bestow Grace.
It's simply a different perspective. To make God's will the overriding principle is to rob all of us of any responsibility. If you would only admit that men have a capacity to do good or evil, than your problems would go away.
I can't admit that Dave, remember that verse about "whatsoever is not of faith is sin?" The unsaved can never do good. Well, they can never do anything that God would consider good. I'm sure they can do lots of stuff that we would consider good.
Remember the rich, young ruler? He called Jesus "Good Master." Then Jesus told him that only God is good. The young ruler had kept most of the commandments and yet he still wasn't considered good, why do you think that was?
"Know" does not mean "cause." God knows who is damned. God does not cause their damnation by failing to provide them with grace.
I don't think you will find a single Calvinist on this thread that disagrees with you. Those who end up in Hell end up there of their own Free Will. Those who end up with God in Eternity do so of their own Free Will.
But you guys don't accept free will. You make God's will everything. Which means God is responsible for the damnation of those. No matter how much you protest. Making God's will the highest thing leads you to this.
I make a mystery, the unknowability of how God works my highest thing.
The only difference between the two is God's Grace. On one undeserving group He bestowed Grace. On the other undeserving group He did not bestow Grace.
Then God decided! See? Of course you don't.
God gives sufficient grace for salvation to all. So those in hell have freely chosen it. He didn't decide to deprive them of what they need. It is this conception of God that the atheists hate. And rightly so.
I can't admit that Dave, remember that verse about "whatsoever is not of faith is sin?" The unsaved can never do good.
Then they are not free.
The young ruler had kept most of the commandments and yet he still wasn't considered good, why do you think that was?
Because "most of the commandments" makes you a commandment-breaker. All are judged and found wanting. That doesn't mean that people can do isolated thigns that are objectively good.
Today seems to be the day we find out that there is no objective standard that Calvinists hold for good and evil. If the reprobate do exactly what God wants and are damned for it and if they can do not own single thing that is good in God's eyes, then what is good and what is bad?
Can a Calvinist define them? It would seem to me that doing what God wants of us is good, but that is not what you think. So what is good? What is bad?
SD