"Know" does not mean "cause." God knows who is damned. God does not cause their damnation by failing to provide them with grace.
I don't think you will find a single Calvinist on this thread that disagrees with you. Those who end up in Hell end up there of their own Free Will. Those who end up with God in Eternity do so of their own Free Will.
But you guys don't accept free will. You make God's will everything. Which means God is responsible for the damnation of those. No matter how much you protest. Making God's will the highest thing leads you to this.
I make a mystery, the unknowability of how God works my highest thing.
The only difference between the two is God's Grace. On one undeserving group He bestowed Grace. On the other undeserving group He did not bestow Grace.
Then God decided! See? Of course you don't.
God gives sufficient grace for salvation to all. So those in hell have freely chosen it. He didn't decide to deprive them of what they need. It is this conception of God that the atheists hate. And rightly so.
I can't admit that Dave, remember that verse about "whatsoever is not of faith is sin?" The unsaved can never do good.
Then they are not free.
The young ruler had kept most of the commandments and yet he still wasn't considered good, why do you think that was?
Because "most of the commandments" makes you a commandment-breaker. All are judged and found wanting. That doesn't mean that people can do isolated thigns that are objectively good.
Today seems to be the day we find out that there is no objective standard that Calvinists hold for good and evil. If the reprobate do exactly what God wants and are damned for it and if they can do not own single thing that is good in God's eyes, then what is good and what is bad?
Can a Calvinist define them? It would seem to me that doing what God wants of us is good, but that is not what you think. So what is good? What is bad?
SD
With God Know is the same thing as ordained as He knows because it is a part of His plan .
You believe men can earn grace. Protestants believe that grace is GODS UNMERITED FAVOR . As such He can freely shower it on who He will when He will.
But you guys don't accept free will. You make God's will everything. Which means God is responsible for the damnation of those. No matter how much you protest. Making God's will the highest thing leads you to this.
Wow that is just awful isn't it? Who does He think he is anyway God or something ?
No man will be in hell that does not deserve to be there. God does not need to apologize for His Justice or His Mercy