To: JohnnyM
What about the pre-NT Jews? They believed in Jesus. Moses knew Jesus as well as King David. Baloney. That's circular reasoning to fulfill a narrow interpretation of scripture. David knew a messiah was coming, he didn't know His name or that he had to place his faith in a personal relationship with Jesus.
Are you saying a pygmie who has never heard of or encountered Jesus can still be saved?
That isn't exactly what I'm saying (I don't know one way or the other). I'm saying that, hypothetically, if he WAS saved... it would still be "through Jesus". Thus the verse "no man comes to the Father" does not imply that a particular formula for accepting Christ is the only way. YOU appear to have set the bar rather low with all of the other people who "believed in Jesus" though they would have been shocked to hear that they did.
To: IMRight
"Thus the verse "no man comes to the Father" does not imply that a particular formula for accepting Christ is the only way. "
John 3 16 - "For God so loved the world, that He gave His (25) only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
17 "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.
18 "He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
JM
To: IMRight
"I'm saying that, hypothetically, if he WAS saved... it would still be "through Jesus". "
How can a pygmie be saved without believing in Jesus?
JM
To: IMRight
I can't get into it right now but (don't go ballistic) there is scripture to base that David and Moses knew the Lord. There is also scripture to support that Christ was there in the past.
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