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KASPER’S CURIOUS “CODE OF BEHAVIOR”
Tradition in Action ^ | March 9, 2004 | Atila Sinke Guimarães

Posted on 03/09/2004 6:28:35 PM PST by Land of the Irish



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KASPER’S CURIOUS “CODE OF BEHAVIOR” – Cardinal Walter Kasper, chief of Vatican ecumenism, recently flew to Moscow (February 16-22) to meet Alexis II, the schismatic Russian patriarch and ex-KGB agent. According to Vatican sources, Alexis had invited Kasper to a cordial meeting. Many news reports were claiming that this trip would reveal a new opening of the Russian “Orthodox” toward the Catholic Church. I didn’t believe it. I suspected the opposite, that is, that new concessions from the Vatican were being prepared. Finally, the data about what really happened surfaced.

Tucked in his briefcase Kasper had a proposal for a new “code of behavior” for the Catholics and schismatics in Russia to agree upon. Speaking to the press before his trip, he evaded revealing precise details about the “code.” He simply stated that it aimed at avoiding any situation that took advantage of the other community’s weakness or that boasted about gains (The Tablet, January 31, 2004).

What these encrypted words mean is simple. After 1989, the Ukrainian Catholics converted a considerable number of schismatics, a fact they proclaimed loudly, which upset the Russian religious authorities. This anger is understandable since the so-called Russian Orthodox Church is struggling to control its own grassroots. It could well disappear altogether if Catholics would set off a broad scale missionary effort to convert the schismatic people, demoralized and disillusioned with the State “religion” after decades of Communism. The Ukrainian initiative has been very successful, and is giving not only the conversion of individuals, but of entire parishes. With schismatic parish-priests at their heads, parishes are turning toward the Catholic Faith en masse, and then converting their worship buildings as well into Catholic churches.. In brief, a serious hemorrhaging process has started, and unless it is stopped, it endangers the very existence of the Russian schismatic church.

Facing this situation, the Vatican has taken every possible measure to try to curb the valorous Ukrainians from going ahead with such conversions, since this is the main reason why the Russian schismatics allege to remain hostile toward any contact with the Vatican. So now, the Vatican again had the hope of putting a stop to Ukrainian proselytizing in order to satisfy the “Orthodox.” This was/is the key problem, and was what Kasper was talking about.

But it seems that the proposal of a mutual “code of behavior” didn’t work very well. This appears evident from the sequence of events that unfolded during Kasper’s trip.


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Spotlighted by failure, Kasper delivers an order and a threat to the Russian Catholic Bishops.

America, March 1, 2004

First, Kasper ordered the Russian Catholic Bishops to be present in Moscow, and at a meeting at the Cathedral of Mary Immaculate he severely lectured them, instructing them to stop proselytizing. These were some of his main points:
• “In our time, the Holy Spirit has inspired repentance and shame” for the disunity between the Church of the East and the West “and has launched the ecumenical movement” to restore a unity.

• Ecumenism aims to re-establish “a unity that is neither absorption nor fusion, but unity in the mutual respect of a plurality of rites and cultures.”

• “Catholics and Orthodox pray the same 'Our Father” and yet, they have been separated for many centuries,” a separation that is “contrary to the will of Jesus” and “a scandal to the eyes of the world.”

• Rapprochement between the separated religions “is one of the priorities of the Pope, who prays and works tirelessly for Christian unity,” and was the reason “why he has sent me here, to Moscow.”

• The Cardinal also stressed that “the re-establishment of unity today is urgent also for the unity of Europe,” because “Europe is not only an economic unity of well-being, it is a cultural unity.”

• Therefore, he continued, “the unity of Europe cannot be built only with the economy.” “Europe needs a soul, a Christian soul, which was implanted in your country by Sts. Cyril and Methodius. So, the unity of Europe also makes the unity of the Church an urgent matter.” (Zenit dispatch February 21)
In short, it was an order for the Bishops to cease working for conversions and fighting for the true Faith. He used an imperative tone – I am speaking in the name of the Pope – and accompanied it with a threat – Cease and desist immediately since all Europe awaits this.

Second, in a characteristic Vatican twist, after the order and the threat, he left a door open in case the Bishops ignored his interference. “I have no illusions; I know that this task is not easy,” he said. “I know the reservations and prejudices of one and the other,” and “that the road toward the full communion of all Christians will probably still be long. …. Yet, even small steps allow for progress.” (ibid.) That is, be the measures large or small, strong or mild, the Vatican will continue inexorably and unceasingly in its efforts to swerve the Ukrainians from their good position.

Third, it is not unwarranted to consider that, prior to Kasper’s visit, the Vatican waved a trophy before the Ukrainians, suggesting a possible Patriarch could be in the offing. This is a just and long-held aspiration of the Ukrainian Catholics since they are, in fact, the most numerous Eastern Catholic rite and can rightly claim a Patriarch like most of the other rites have. The only reason why the Vatican doesn’t appoint a Patriarch for the Catholic Ukrainian rite is, again, not to further inflame the resentments of the Russian schismatics. Waving this possibility before their eyes – a very good bribe – looked like an attempt to corrupt the valorous Ukrainians.

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Alexis II, left, and Kiril of Smolensk were both KGB agents.

30 Giorni, March, 2001




Fourth, it seems that all the maneuvers – the bribe, visit, meeting, orders and threats – didn’t pan out as expected. Instead, at his meeting with Kasper, Alexis seemed to only add insult to the prior injuries he is in the habit of inflicting on the Vatican. You can be the judge.

From January 22 until the day of his trip, the Vatican was announcing that Kasper had received a personal invitation from Alexis II for a meeting to initiate cordial relations (Zenit, February 16). But after his arrival in Moscow, the story changed. The news reports began to stress that Kasper had been invited by the Catholic Russian Bishops, no longer by the Russian schismatic leader. Furthermore, Alexis snubbed Kasper, obliging him to postpone his planned return to Rome for two days. He received the Cardinal only on Sunday, February 22 (Zenit, February 23). The subject of the meeting was also quite different from what had been announced, that is, an opening of cordial relations. Alexis presented to Kasper a list of complaints, things that had to cease before any normal relationship could officially begin. Namely his complaints were these:
• The Vatican should not grant a Patriarchate for the Catholic Ukrainians.

• The mentioned conversions the Ukrainians are promoting among schismatics must cease.

• He disagreed with the establishing of the four Dioceses the Vatican in Russia in 2002.

• The proselytism by Catholics in various Russian orphanages should stop (Zenit, Feb. 23, 2004).

Considering these facts, Kasper’s “code of behavior” could be summarized as follows:

• The Vatican will continue its general policy of conceding whatsoever to please the schismatics. In particular, it will try to curb the Catholic Ukrainians in their anti-ecumenical approach.

• The Russian schismatics will persist in its policy of inflicting continuous humiliations on the Vatican, without conceding a single point in their demands.
Such is the shameless reality we have been witnessing since the opening of Vatican Council II.

I take this opportunity to record yet one more spectacular failure of the Vatican’s ecumenism. At the same time, I can’t find words enough to emphatically congratulate our Ukrainian brothers and encourage them to maintain their splendid position of bringing as many unfortunate schismatics they can to the Catholic Faith.




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First, Kasper ordered the Russian Catholic Bishops to be present in Moscow, and at a meeting at the Cathedral of Mary Immaculate he severely lectured them, instructing them to stop proselytizing.
1 posted on 03/09/2004 6:28:36 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: Akron Al; Alberta's Child; Andrew65; AniGrrl; Antoninus; apologia_pro_vita_sua; attagirl; ...
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2 posted on 03/09/2004 6:34:31 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish; Mitchell; PhilDragoo; editor-surveyor; GOPJ; Fred Mertz; betty boop; ...
...... meet Alexis II, the schismatic Russian patriarch and ex-KGB agent. According to Vatican sources,.....

What Roman Catholic Eastern Rite is,....'KGB'....?

The Splendor of the KGB....?

'In the Name of God'....?

/sarcasm

3 posted on 03/09/2004 6:39:12 PM PST by maestro
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Ping.
4 posted on 03/09/2004 7:54:30 PM PST by narses (If you want OFF or ON my Ping list, please email me.)
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To: Land of the Irish
I say, if Russians are converting to Catholicism, let the Holy Spirit do His work. No worries, though. Those who try to thwart the Spirit never win in the long run.
5 posted on 03/09/2004 8:02:17 PM PST by Antoninus (Federal Marriage Amendment NOW!)
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To: Antoninus; narses; Askel5; Canticle_of_Deborah
I agree, Antoninus.

I wonder if some gentlemen weren't sitting around saying, "We have this huge problem with Walter Kasper. Why don't we put him in Ecumenism, where he is really a fish out of water. He will always be out in the public eye so the Muslims, Jews, Protestants and even the SSPX will have an eye on him. His failures will be on a world stage, and will be his alone. And his successes will belong to the Holy Father. Sound like a good plan, gentlemen?" A chorus of muffled approval and then on to the next nightmare. "Now the matter of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles in the USA."

6 posted on 03/09/2004 8:11:09 PM PST by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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To: Antoninus
I say, if Russians are converting to Catholicism, let the Holy Spirit do His work.

I agree.

Damn the ecumenical torpedoes from Rome, full speed ahead.

7 posted on 03/09/2004 8:14:03 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: maestro
Thanks for the ping!
8 posted on 03/09/2004 9:07:35 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Land of the Irish
I agree with you in part, so please read past the initial criticism of the post.

This article is misleading, using the Ukranians as a potential model for the Russians.

Ukranian-rite Catholicism was brutally repressed during Soviet rule. Orthodox churches were allowed, because they did not have allegiance to a non-Soviet authority, but the Ukranians had reunited with Rome several centuries earlier. Under such harsh oppression, most Ukranians began attending schismatic Orthodox mass to receive sacraments in a manner which is canonically valid.

When the Soviet Union fell, an "Orthodox" priest "retook" the Cathedral in Lvov, declaring he had always remained Catholic in his heart. Tens of thousands of worshippers helped keep the church under Roman control. In a remarkably brief period of time, massive numbers of Ukranians left the Soviet-imposed Orthodox church to return to the church of their fathers, the Ukranian-rite Roman Catholic Church.

In contrast, the Russian Orthodox Church has been separate from Rome for a millennium. A return of this Church to the Roman one is probably less likely than a return of Lutherans to the Catholic Church, and certainly less likely than Episcopalians! (If there are Episcopalians and Lutherans reading this saying "We'd never go back!" -- well, that's my point.)

That being written, most Russians are, too my knowledge, quite irreligious. The Russian Orthodox church's stance seems to equate to "better atheist than Catholic"! While I would be hestitant to proselytize church-going Orthodox, I pray for the conversion of the Russians who are godless.

I believe Kasper is wrong. And if he truly represents the Pope in this matter, the Pope is wrong also. (Yes, I DO believe the Pope CAN be dreadfully wrong!) But, there is another side to this:

Russia is still not safely Democratic, and can quickly veer into totalitarianism. The vast majority of Russians are not religious, but do identify with Russian Orthodoxy in a nationalist way. Encroachment of Rome is seen as being conquered by the West. Aggressive prosetylization is therefore very threatening to Russians and the Church apparently is fearful of triggering state suppression of religion. And that fear is very rational. But I trust the episcopy in Russia far more than the modernist Kasper to decide where to draw the line.
9 posted on 03/10/2004 11:02:13 AM PST by dangus
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To: Land of the Irish
>>>>I say, if Russians are converting to Catholicism, let the Holy Spirit do His work.<<<<

>>I agree.<<

>>Damn the ecumenical torpedoes from Rome, full speed ahead.<<

Interesting choice of language, but I certainly agree!
10 posted on 03/10/2004 11:04:15 AM PST by dangus
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To: maestro
No, it's not the Eastern Rite... it's the schismatic Eastern Church which broke from the Roman Church in the 11th century.
11 posted on 03/10/2004 11:05:17 AM PST by dangus
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To: Siobhan
>>I wonder if some gentlemen weren't sitting around saying, "We have this huge problem with Walter Kasper. Why don't we put him in Ecumenism, where he is really a fish out of water. He will always be out in the public eye so the Muslims, Jews, Protestants and even the SSPX will have an eye on him. His failures will be on a world stage, and will be his alone. And his successes will belong to the Holy Father. Sound like a good plan, gentlemen?" A chorus of muffled approval and then on to the next nightmare. "Now the matter of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles in the USA."<<

I don't know if I believe that, but it has crossed my mind that the Holy Spirit may be working even through the visibly evil archdioceses such as Boston and Los Angeles so that the orthodox faith may be revealed when these diocese are compared to more orthodox archdioceses such as Philadelphia, St. Louis, and Denver.
12 posted on 03/10/2004 11:09:23 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus
Your points are well taken and spot on -- mine was simply musing.
13 posted on 03/10/2004 11:49:01 AM PST by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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To: dangus; Siobhan
In Kyiv for the Pope's visit to Ukraine, the enmity was palpable ... not just the protestors at Pechersky Lavra (Alexy's property) but some outright attacks by a couple of women on one of our priests ... who, strangely enough, became his best friend when he pulled out his Eastern rite blessing cross. (He's got some sort of dispensation to say the Eastern Rite Mass here in New Orleans.)

I think your comments are spot on as well. There was no love lost between me and our Moscow guide (who did not like at all my disappearing for two days) and her enthusiasm over the rebuilt Cathedral of Christ the Savior was lost on me somewhere about the time the corporate sponsorship details (as exacted by the state) were brought forth. Between that and what was then the recent injunction Alexy had brought against any public worship but Orthodox ... I ended up opting against covering my head.

It was breathtaking in its way but also truly creepy.

I wish I'd been more mollified by the pro-literature I found tucked away in a corner of the enormous building but we're talking Moscow ... where even the Metro cars have anti-abortion placards ... for what that's worth in a nation where abortions outnumber live births.

I also find it telling that -- among his big PR pitches where the faith was concerned, such as presiding at the canonization of the Romanovs -- Yeltsin didn't break ground at the Cathedral but, instead, fitted the Last Brick in the structure.

You put the last brick in, you can take the last brick out and it'll collapse every bit as easily as the old Soviet Union did once time was ripe for perestroika.

Interesting post, Dangus. No question but what the return of the Kazan icon is terribly premature yet. The ravages of 80 years of militant atheism are palpable.
14 posted on 03/10/2004 12:50:10 PM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
I actually would be interested in Orthodox feedback to my post... know anyone to ping?
15 posted on 03/10/2004 1:05:29 PM PST by dangus
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To: Askel5
O, and by the way... you're experiences were very interesting; I was wondering who was supporting the pro-life placards in the subway stations. Is it the government afraid of demographics, or a church fighting evil?
16 posted on 03/10/2004 1:07:11 PM PST by dangus
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To: Askel5
You put the last brick in, you can take the last brick out and it'll collapse every bit as easily as the old Soviet Union did once time was ripe for perestroika.

Bingo!

17 posted on 03/10/2004 1:19:06 PM PST by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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To: dangus
I'm guessing it was the government.

Would have taken a picture but, unfortunately, I noticed it only as the doors were opening (and having played "prairie dog" on the Metro for a while at that point, was reluctant to get lost AGAIN ...).

It was an all-black placard with perhaps three words (perhaps a "just say no" sort of slogan) and an image of a 6-month old infant that was shattered like a piece of glass. Very powerful, I thought. But no religious connotation whatsoever.

Another guide in St. Petersburg spent quite a while discussing with us the incentives the government has put in place to encourage women to have children ... with or without fathers.

None appear to be working.
18 posted on 03/10/2004 2:41:03 PM PST by Askel5
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To: dangus; Romulus
Romulus isn't Orthodox but might have good feedback and will probably know who to ping.
19 posted on 03/10/2004 2:41:58 PM PST by Askel5
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Comments?
20 posted on 03/10/2004 7:43:49 PM PST by Romulus ("Behold, I make all things new")
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