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San Jose Bishop McGrath Denounced for Heresy by Local Area Priest
St. Joseph's Men Society ^ | February 2004 | Ken Malone

Posted on 02/29/2004 1:04:29 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah

On Sunday, Feb. 22, 2004, Rev. Daniel Cooper, pastor of Our Mother of Perpetual Help in Los Gatos, CA, denounced Bishop Patrick McGrath for heresy. The priest was responding to a stand taken by the bishop against the historical truth of the four Gospels

Bishop McGrath wrote the heretical comments as part of an op-ed piece which appeared in the February 1st edition of the San Jose Mercury News. The newspaper also recently featured a number of by-line pieces linking The Passion of the Christ and Mel Gibson to charges of anti-Semitism. Under the title "Its Just a Movie", Bishop McGrath states:

"While the primary source material of the film is attributed to the four gospels, these sacred books are not historical accounts of the historical events that they narrate. They are theological reflections upon the events that form the core of Christian faith and belief."

Father Cooper said the bishop had contradicted official teachings of the church and thereby committed heresy. "Non-Catholic Christians will look down on us" he noted, "since our common thread has always been a belief in the Gospels." Presumably, the priest’s position was taken from church documents such as the Syllabus of Errors and Dei Verbum, Vatican II.

"Holy Mother Church has firmly and with absolute constancy held, and continues to hold, that the four Gospels just named, whose historical character the Church unhesitatingly asserts, faithfully hand on what Jesus Christ, while living among men, really did and taught for their eternal salvation until the day He was taken up into heaven." Second Vatican Council, Dei Verbum 19. Promulgated in 1965.

The Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office at the command of Pope St. Pius X issued the Syllabus of Errors condemning the errors of the Modernists on July 3, 1907 which officially CONDEMNED 65 modernist propositions including #16 "The narrations of John are not properly history, but a mystical contemplation of the Gospel. The discourses contained in his Gospel are theological meditations, lacking historical truth concerning the mystery of salvation." (See also #3,16,29 and 36) etc. Promulgated in 1864.

"I was surprised to hear him take the position he did, but then, how many holy priests do I really know" said one eye witness. "For a supposed schismatic, he was pretty true to the Gospels."

Father Cooper’s chapel is located in the St. Aloysius Retreat Center at 101 Bear Creek Road, Los Gatos, CA within the Diocese of San Jose which is headed by Bishop McGrath. St. Aloysius is operated by the Society of St. Pius X, the largest organization within the Catholic traditionalist movement. Catholic traditionalists, whose number includes Mel Gibson, typically suspend obedience from church office-holders who reject church teachings handed down by their predecessors because of biblical (2 Th 2:15, 1 Co 11:2, Ga 2:11) and various papal injunctions to defend Tradition.


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To: sinkspur
Well, I don't know...I would pray for conversion. If they were given an apostolic administration, they would eliminate the chief obstacle to a wide and generous application of the traditional Mass, namely, the Latin Rite bishops.

I do think they are pushing a bit too hard, and trying to strong-arm Rome into granting a universal indult.

That's not going to be granted as long as they are outside the formal Church. They should accept what has (allegedly) been offered them, and then work from within on other things. If they truly believe in the primacy of the See of Peter, they must do this.

On the other side, Rome should begin to clean house. "Promote" bishops who are borderline heretics to some kind of papal commission renumbering shelves in the Vatican library.

21 posted on 02/29/2004 4:35:13 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: narses
This is kind of off subject, but since the big report has come out, do you think that more people will start looking into SSPX communities?
I knew nothing about SSPX until a week ago when a mom at my daughter's dance class told me that I did not want to attend a Latin mass (which I was looking for) at a certain church. She said it was a breakaway church. HUH? I had to look into it on the internet to find out. I feel this is a message to me.
Or I may just be searching...
22 posted on 02/29/2004 4:35:19 PM PST by netmilsmom (Don't put a question mark where God put a period.)
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To: sydney smith
Sinkspur, can't you find another site?

No. If you don't like it here, then YOU leave. I was here before you arrived, and I'll be here after you leave.

23 posted on 02/29/2004 4:35:51 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: narses
I don't read the NYSlimes out a principle, can you expound upon the comment that they deliberately used Invalid Manner to create false services? I just want to know more, kind of alarming.
24 posted on 02/29/2004 4:41:20 PM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: B Knotts; ultima ratio
I do think they are pushing a bit too hard, and trying to strong-arm Rome into granting a universal indult.

Knotts, ask UR if a universal indult will bring him back into the Church.

He will tell you no.

The SSPX does not want a universal indult. It wants the suppression of the Mass of Paul VI!

Nothing short of that, and the renunciation of, at the very least, the Decrees on Ecumenism and Religious Liberty from Vatican II, will do.

IOW, the SSPX is never coming back, Knotts. They want the clock turned back, and that is not going to happen.

25 posted on 02/29/2004 4:45:33 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: NWU Army ROTC; NYer
I don't read the NYSlimes out a principle, can you expound upon the comment that they deliberately used Invalid Manner to create false services? I just want to know more, kind of alarming.

No, silly kid    :-)  FR's Catholic Caucus' very own NYer!   She has taken the time and effort to post the Wanderer's Agony in Albany series from the nineties.
The invalid matter has spurred further discussion as well.
part 3
FReegards!
26 posted on 02/29/2004 4:46:54 PM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: sinkspur
Someone once said "Good nature is one of the richest fruits of true Christianity". Did you play hookey that day in theology 101 class?
27 posted on 02/29/2004 4:52:18 PM PST by sydney smith
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To: GirlShortstop
Oh!

And on that note, I am disgusted. The University Center here has finally moved to Valid Matter for the Mass, I like to think I had a hand in it, from my constant arguing for it at Liturgy Commission. Though I have to admit, it ultimately was Cardinal George directing it. The Associates are not too happy though, the priest is. I cannot believe that this was actual diocesan policy, why wasn't he removed?
28 posted on 02/29/2004 4:52:42 PM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
SSPX has become quite outspoken in the past few months.

Good for them; it's a shame no one else, especially the Vatican, denounces such heresies.

29 posted on 02/29/2004 4:55:44 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
"Catholics who remain faithful to Tradition, even if they are reduced to a few handful, are the true Church of Jesus Christ."
Saint Athanasius

"Therefore brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you have learned. Whether by word or by our epistle."
2 Thess.II,14
30 posted on 02/29/2004 5:13:02 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish
Catholics who remain faithful to Tradition, even if they are reduced to a few handful, are the true Church of Jesus Christ."

You don't "remain faithful to Tradition" apart from the successor of Peter.

31 posted on 02/29/2004 5:18:23 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: sinkspur
It (SSPX) wants the suppression of the Mass of Paul VI!

That's a lie, and you know it.

32 posted on 02/29/2004 5:19:07 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: sinkspur
You don't "remain faithful to Tradition" apart from the successor of Peter.

Who's "apart"?

33 posted on 02/29/2004 5:23:32 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish; ultima ratio
That's a lie, and you know it.

The SSPX doesn't want the suppression of the Mass of Paul VI?

You and your fellow zoo-keeper, Ultima Ratio, need to get on the same page. He indicates otherwise.

34 posted on 02/29/2004 5:25:08 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: Land of the Irish
It (SSPX) wants the suppression of the Mass of Paul VI!

What is wrong with wanting this? I am loyal to John Paul II, have never had anything to do with SSPX, and yet I would love nothng more than to see the Mass of Paul VI suppressed for all time!

35 posted on 02/29/2004 5:25:45 PM PST by Diago
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To: Land of the Irish
You're "apart." You're in schism.
36 posted on 02/29/2004 5:26:01 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: sinkspur
Who cares? They're a sect.

I have never said this before now but I have to. I absolutely cannot believe you are a deacon in the Catholic Church. Would you say that about Lutherism or Anglicanism or any of the Protestant demominations?

Are the members of the SSPX Christians and your own brothers and sisters?

37 posted on 02/29/2004 5:28:50 PM PST by american colleen
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To: sinkspur
You and your fellow zoo-keeper,...

If I'm a zoo-keeper, you must be one of my chimps.

38 posted on 02/29/2004 5:29:02 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: sinkspur
"zoo-keeper"?

What kind of Deacon are you?

39 posted on 02/29/2004 5:30:03 PM PST by american colleen
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To: american colleen
What kind of Deacon are you?

I like animals.

40 posted on 02/29/2004 5:31:22 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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