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Coming: New Vatican call for use of Latin
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| Feb. 26
Posted on 02/26/2004 3:49:03 PM PST by nickcarraway
Vatican, Feb. 26 (CWNews.com) - A new document on the use of Latin in the Church, and the teaching of Latin in seminaries, is expected sometime this year.
Cardinal Zenon Grocholewski, the prefect of the Congregation for Catholic Education, has confirmed that he hopes the document being prepared by that Congregation will be published in 2004.
"In order not to mutilate herself, the Church cannot fail to conserve her tradition and patrimony written in Latin," the Polish cardinal remarked during a February 25 meeting in Rome. He pointed out that Latin remains the official language of the Roman Church, and the official documents of the magisterium are written in that language. Therefore, he concluded, the Church needs priests who are familiar with the language, in order to ensure that they fully understand Catholic teachings.
Cardinal Grocholewski expressed regret that previous Vatican statements encouraging the teaching of Latin in Catholic seminaries-- such as Pope Paul VI's Veterum Sapentia of 1962-- are clearly not being applied. He added that Pope John Paul II had also encouraged Latin study in his 1979 apostolic constitution Sapientia Christiana, and the 1983 Code of Canon Law states calls for a "good understanding" of Latin among Catholic priests. On the 40th anniversary of Veterum Sapentia, Pope John Paul said that he would like to see "an ever stronger love for that language among the candidates for the priesthood."
The Congregation for Catholic Education, which is preparing the new document on the use of Latin, is asking a group of Latin scholars to review the proposed text. After that editorial review, the document will be sent to the presidents of the world's episcopal conferences before being made public. Cardinal Grocholewski indicated that he hoped that entire process would be complete before the end of 2004.
TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; History; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholic; latin; pope
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To: nickcarraway
Yes. A number of them would have special classes with me called Baltimore Catechism 101. They could either use it to rediscover the core of their faith or perhaps just view the experience as penance - perhaps both. Dealing with me could make it possibly an act of reparation. We'll see.
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posted on
02/26/2004 8:11:04 PM PST
by
Siobhan
(+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
To: Siobhan
Very good. How do you feel about the use of rulers?
To: nickcarraway
I can make them sing.
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posted on
02/26/2004 8:16:03 PM PST
by
Siobhan
(+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Isn't it "bumpus maximus?"
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posted on
02/26/2004 8:30:09 PM PST
by
B Knotts
(Deport Arnold!)
To: Siobhan
I need to remember to read the whole thread before responding... :-P
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posted on
02/26/2004 8:37:30 PM PST
by
B Knotts
(We need a wider and more generous application)
To: Canticle_of_Deborah
How do I say "bump" in Latin? I need to practice :-)I use "bumpus ad summum."
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posted on
02/26/2004 8:41:47 PM PST
by
Dajjal
To: Dajjal
There we are!!!!! That's my favourite, and I couldn't quite remember it. Thank you for posting it, Dajjal.
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posted on
02/26/2004 8:56:38 PM PST
by
Siobhan
(+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
To: ninenot
Fr. Henle's five volumes are STILL in print and available from Loyola Press in Chicago after nearly 60 years. Believe it or not, he just died about a year ago. He must have been 140! OK, OK, so I exaggerate a bit. God bless Fr. Henle, SJ who lived his long life AMDG.
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posted on
02/27/2004 12:08:55 AM PST
by
BlackElk
(Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
To: sinkspur; american colleen; Siobhan; saradippity; GirlShortstop; ninenot; ArrogantBustard; ...
Heh, heh, heh! Hark to the sound of whistling. There are folks buried over there. p>
Introibo ad altare Dei....
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posted on
02/27/2004 12:14:02 AM PST
by
BlackElk
(Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
To: livius
I'm in catch-up mode yet again this morning.
Last year during Lent, at my parish we sang not just the Kyrie and the Agnus Dei, but the Sanctus in Latin. It was all in chant and people caught on quickly, if they didn't know it already. Younger people are more interested than anyone realizes and the people currently in their 70s and 80s remember without complaint.
Now, after Lent, if we could work on the Gloria. The Credo and the Canon in due time.
I think there's signs that we're working our way toward regular use of Latin for some things. It would be nice. It's such a beautifully artistic language.
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posted on
02/27/2004 4:45:40 AM PST
by
Desdemona
(Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
To: ninenot
Next to Russian, Latin is a peice of cake. Honestly.
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posted on
02/27/2004 4:46:33 AM PST
by
Desdemona
(Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
To: dubyaismypresident
The priest at my old parish says there is a well known phrase in Italy, "the translator is a liar".
I like that. And yet another reason to actually learn the language.
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posted on
02/27/2004 4:47:31 AM PST
by
Desdemona
(Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
To: Siobhan
"I can make them sing"...
Did you hear the Roman garrison commander's words just before the flagellation began in the movie?
"Facite musicam"
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posted on
02/27/2004 5:12:57 AM PST
by
ninenot
(Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
To: Desdemona
Russian is MUCH easier if you take Greek first.
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posted on
02/27/2004 5:14:18 AM PST
by
ninenot
(Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
To: Siobhan; BlackElk; ArrogantBustard; drstevej; Desdemona
Membership considered.
All in favor??
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posted on
02/27/2004 5:15:28 AM PST
by
ninenot
(Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
To: Siobhan
Failing that, I would also volunteer to help with the revival of certain customs of the Holy Office that could be salutary. We live, but to serve ...
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posted on
02/27/2004 6:11:21 AM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(Chief Engineer, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemens' Club)
To: ninenot
We're voting on Siobhan?
AYE!!!
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posted on
02/27/2004 6:13:58 AM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(Chief Engineer, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemens' Club)
To: ninenot
Aye.
Time to make the cucumber sandwiches.
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posted on
02/27/2004 6:26:56 AM PST
by
Desdemona
(Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
To: nickcarraway
A new document on the use of Latin in the Church, and the teaching of Latin in seminaries, is expected sometime this year. Super. (<---- That's Latin, isn't it?)
SD
To: ninenot
Russian is MUCH easier if you take Greek first.
Unfortunately, I had to take a crash course this year. Not pretty.
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posted on
02/27/2004 6:28:31 AM PST
by
Desdemona
(Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
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