[Warlord David]

But even if God already knows are decision before we do, as long as we are able to decide for are selfs, base on what information we have. Its still free will, only God knows before we do. I see no conflict here.

[winstonchurchill]

But even if God already knows are decision before we do, as long as we are able to decide for are selfs, base on what information we have. Its still free will, only God knows before we do.

Well, tell me how that works. Suppose God 'knows' that I'm going to say 'yes,' but then I change my mind and say, 'no.' Doesn't that leave us with the old determinist dodge, "Well, God knew he was going to change his mind, so he never really said 'yes'."

I am familiar with Mr. Wesley's explanation of God being outside 'history' and therefore can have (simple) foreknowledge. The problem is that it takes God outside of sequentiality. That's why open theism has some appeal.