[BipolarBob]

I do not wish to debate or argue your point, but the concept is that the sacrifice was sufficient to atone for everyones sins. For this to become fact you have to accept this atonement and obviously not everyone has taken advantage of this sacrifice.

[Vets_Husband_and_Wife]

"For this to become fact you have to accept this atonement and obviously not everyone has taken advantage of this sacrifice".

Right. And Scrutator doesn't get it, because he or she hasn't *come* *freely* to Christ.

No one is forced to the Father. We do so freely.

He or she is free to be a non-believer. I am free to think differently. To believe differently. But I find it very interesting that Scrutator even came to this thread. Perhaps he or she is *searching*?

[rwfromkansas]

Disagree. Universal atonement like you are defending is the ancient heresy of Pelaganism (sp).