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To: heyheyhey
Where the heck do you start?!?

How about the current issue and "Liturgical coup is a lousy way to do business"

Five years ago, when our now Vatican writer John L. Allen Jr. first began to uncover exactly how the revisionists were attacking the reform, he discovered that a secretly appointed committee of 11 men -- no women included -- met quietly at the Vatican to overturn decades of work on translation, work that had been done under the approving mandate of Pope Paul VI.

Of those 11, only one held a graduate degree in scripture studies, two were not native English-speakers, one of the advisers was a graduate student and several had a history of objecting to inclusive-language translations, including two of the American archbishops and the lone scripture scholar. A rather poor representation of scholarship and pastoral sensitivities,, given the dimensions of the English-speaking segment of the church.

“What has also become clear,” our story reported, “is that the elaborate consultative process used in developing English-language translations for nearly three decades meant little. Powers in Rome handpicked a small group of men who in two weeks undid work that had taken dozens of years.”

The unfortunate thing is that the new translations, or the return to old translations, is being done in the style of the pre-Vatican II church, heavy-handed and at the whim of those in power.

It’s a lousy way to do the church’s business -- and it doesn’t withstand the scrutiny of serious, adult, educated Catholics in the early 21st century.

Round off whining and condescending pieces like the above with regular contributors like Gumbleton, Chittister, McBrien and you got yerself National AmCatholic Distorter!

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4 posted on 01/28/2004 12:58:55 PM PST by american colleen
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To: american colleen
Where the heck do you start?!?

LOL!
I know :)
Here's what I found,

January 27, 2004 - Rita Larivee, NCR associate publisher wrote,

The universe is a sacred dance involving all of creation. Quantum theology invites us to be participants, encouraging us to suspend for a moment our inhibitions in fear that we might miss a step or stumble and fall. We must go beyond a comparison of the great wisdom traditions, as if sharing notes on who said what first and stopping there. Quantum theology is suggesting that the solutions to our world and church problems can only be found in the mosaic of the world community.

Imagine what we could learn if we accepted to discuss the issues of war, abortion, and homosexuality from the perspectives of Jainism, Buddhism and Confucianism. Is it possible that part of the reason we cannot find answers is that we are asking the wrong questions? Quantum theology is not for those seeking to justify a particular perspective. It forces us to go beyond our usual comfort zone and to venture onto a dance floor whose music we have yet to understand.

No comment necessary.
8 posted on 01/28/2004 1:04:25 PM PST by heyheyhey
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To: american colleen
What has also become clear,” our story reported, “is that the elaborate consultative process used in developing English-language translations for nearly three decades meant little.

Means little? They sell themselves short. This "consulative process" that they enjoy serves as a case study of how NOT to do things.

12 posted on 01/28/2004 1:09:59 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Kerry replaces Pelosi as the botox babe of the Democrat Party)
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To: american colleen
Yet more proof that the revolution is dead and has simply no stamina left to fall over.
35 posted on 01/28/2004 3:06:00 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: american colleen
The unfortunate thing is that the new translations, or the return to old translations, is being done in the style of the pre-Vatican II church, heavy-handed and at the whim of those in power.

That statement more accurately describes the way the changes were made 'in the spirit of Vatican II', but that had no connection at all to the Documents themselves. It will take years to roll back the stupidity and blandness that passes for Liturgy in some areas today.

Dont' get me wrong, I'm not a Latin Mass fan. I don't remember the Latin Mass that well, I was 12 when Mass began to be said in English, and that is the way in which I'm more comfortable. I think many who want the Mass in Latin are just yearning for some seriousness and sacredness in the Mass, both of which you can get in a vernacular Mass, if done prayerfully.

162 posted on 03/24/2004 11:53:44 PM PST by SuziQ
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