Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Why Does God Allow Evil? - Email from a Skeptic
Koinonea House Online ^ | Dr Mark Eastman

Posted on 01/23/2004 5:41:11 PM PST by xzins

In my experience, it is the most commonly asked question by honest skeptics: "If God is real, if God is personal, if God loves us, why does God allow evil?" A proper understanding of this issue not only provides great insight into the nature of God, it ties together a comprehensive understanding to some of life's ultimate questions: the answers to my origin, meaning, morality and destiny!

Email from A Skeptic

The question of evil was brought into clearer focus in an email I recently received from a skeptic:

The Christian worldview is an impractical, even phony, view of the Cosmos because it embraces a God who is either incapable of stopping evil and suffering, and he is therefore not omnipotent, or is unwilling to do so and therefore a devil!

The skeptic's point is well taken because the Bible states that one of God's attributes is love. "He who does not love does not know God, for God is love." (I John 4:8) In the book of Romans, Paul the Apostle stated that the invisible attributes of God "are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead."1

However, what the skeptic is saying, in effect, is this: "If your God is love, I see no evidence of that attribute in creation. All the death, disease, pain and suffering seems to be out of place if this God of yours is love. Surely an all-powerful God could, and a loving God would, eliminate all evil. Since evil exists, then no such God exists."

To answer this objection we need to examine some principles of logic, the nature of God, the nature of man, the nature of love and the nature of evil.

Evil and Moral Law

When someone states that they do not believe in God because a good God would not allow evil, they make a fatal error in logic. First, the recognition of evil is the recognition that certain actions are "right" and certain actions are "wrong." But how do we determine what actions are morally right and morally wrong? We discern this on the basis of a moral law: a universal sense that certain states of affairs are right and others are wrong. Even most atheists will admit that certain actions are universally wrong and, conversely, universally right.

For example, no one could seriously argue with the statement that it is better to love a child than to torture it. The point is that there is an innate, universal sense of right and wrong within all of us. What is the basis of this moral sense? Some would argue that it is based on cultural customs or traditions. But can this be so?

The famous atheist Bertrand Russell once debated a Christian who asked him if he believed in right and wrong. Russell replied "of course." Then he asked him how he determined what is right and wrong. Russell replied that he determined right and wrong on the basis of his feelings. His opponent replied, "Well, in some cultures they feel it is okay to eat you, and in others they don't. Which do you prefer." The point is that social customs, attitudes, traditions or feelings cannot determine a universal sense of right and wrong.

A universal sense of moral right and wrong can only come from a source outside of ourselves: a transcendent source, a moral Lawgiver. So the recognition of moral law is by default the recognition of a moral Lawgiver. To argue that the existence of evil proves that there is no God is equivalent to stating that the existence of moral law proves that there is no Lawgiver! It's like declaring that the Chrysler automobile that I drive proves without a doubt that there is no Chrysler Motor Company!

Atheists often present the problem of evil to theists as if it is a fatal argument for the existence of God. Nothing could be further from the truth. In reality, it is an absolutely unsolvable problem for the atheist. How does the atheist explain evil-the sense of moral right and wrong-in the absence of a moral Lawgiver? They can't! If there is no moral Lawgiver, then there is no way to explain the sense of moral wrong and moral right we all possess. C.S. Lewis said that evil is God's megaphone to a non-believing world. Evil speaks of moral law. Moral law demands a moral Lawgiver, and it is He that we call God!

Evil Often Begets Good

A second principle of logic we need to consider is the fact that an apparently evil state of affairs will often bring about an even better state of affairs. The problem is that we often do not recognize this fact until we have the advantage of hindsight. In my own field of medicine I see this on a daily basis: the process of childbirth, surgical intervention, and many medical therapies often present physical pain (an evil state of affairs according to non-theists), and yet they bring about an even better state of affairs: improved health. Physical pain is often highly beneficial as well. When a child touches a hot stove, the nervous system sends a neurological signal to the brain which is perceived as pain (a form of evil). Yet without that sense of pain, an even worse state of affairs would arise: the destruction of the limb.

The skeptic might object that while this provides a partial answer to the problem of evil, it does not address some of the most disturbing forms of evil: war, murder, rape, incest and the senseless death of the innocent.

God, Freedom, and Evil

The problem of human evil is rooted in the nature of God and the nature of love and the nature of mankind. I argued in last month's Personal UPDATE that God is a personal being because an impersonal force is an insufficient agent to create personal beings.2 What is the greatest passion of personal beings? I would argue that, above all else, personal beings desire personal relationships with other personal beings. So it makes sense that God, as a personal being, would desire to create us in such a way that He could have a meaningful, personal, and loving relationship with us. But this has a severe price.

Let us consider the nature of love and its consequences. I cannot experience love from you unless you have the capacity to do otherwise. If you have the capacity to not love me, and you choose instead to love me, then that choice has validity. It has meaning. You cannot have a love relationship with a computer. It is pre-programmed to serve you. Love requires choice: unencumbered choice. And that's where the problem lies.

When God created mankind, He too had a choice. If He created us as beings that were pre-programmed to follow and serve Him, there could be no love. But, if He created us with the capacity of choice, the capacity to love and serve Him, and the capacity not to do so, then there is the possibility of relationship: the possibility of real love. As a personal being with the capability of creating us in the first place, it makes sense that He would want to create us as personal beings with the capability of choice (free will) and, thus, the capability of love. But where there is choice and the capability of love, there is also the capability to choose wrong and to do great evil.

But the skeptic says, "why did God do this when he knew in advance that the result of free will would be so disastrous? Did this God of love not care that war, murder, rape and so much senseless violence would be the result of his choice to give us free will?" A real life illustration will help us to understand.

The Love of a Mother

During my 15 years as a physician I have seen an enormous amount of physical suffering. During that time I have had five children in my practice die by disease and injury. All of these children came from Christian families. Several months after the death of one of these children, the child's mother was in my office and was very distraught over her loss. She asked me, "Why did God allow this? I love God. Why did this happen?"

What could I say in this situation? Rather than providing an answer I asked her this question. "You have three children. One of them has died. If you could go back to the time before you had any children, with the knowledge that one of them would die this horrible death, would you have children again?"

After a long pause, with many tears in her eyes and a broken heart she said, "Oh yes. Oh yes. yes I would. Because, you see, the love and the joy and the happiness I have received from my children far outweighs the pain, suffering and misery I experienced from the loss of that one child. Oh yes. Oh yes. I would have children again."

In this tragic story we see an incredible insight as to why God allows evil to exist. As discussed earlier, a loving God can allow an evil state of affairs to exist if, in allowing it to occur, it brings about an even better state of affairs. For this woman, the loss of her child was an unequalled and tragic evil. But, with the advantage of hindsight, she said she would do it all again because the love she received as a result of being a mother outweighed the evil state of affairs in the death of her child.

In the hypothetical scenario I presented to this woman, with the advantage of hindsight (foreknowledge in this case) she was in a position comparable to God's before He created humankind. Because He is outside time and knows all things, He knew that there would be tremendous pain and suffering as a result of His decision to create a people with the capacity of choice and, consequently, the capacity to sin (moral evil).

But God, like this mother, knew that the love He and his human creatures would experience would outweigh the pain and suffering that would result from His decision to create us as He did. But the consequences of God's decision were not unforeseen. They were foreknown!

The Incredible Answer

The skeptic that emailed me stated, in effect, that if an all-powerful God did not eliminate evil, then He was a devil! The implication is that the removal of all evil would permit a better, more loving world. A truly loving God, the skeptics assert, would have desired and created such a world because it is clearly superior to the one we have. Any God that did not follow this logic was not a God of love, but an evil tyrant.

As we have seen, this logic crumbles under its own weight. The existence of evil is the "side effect" of creating a world with love. But as we have seen, there are compelling arguments that a world possessing both evil and love is superior to a world where neither is possible. For God to eliminate evil, He would have to eliminate our capacity of choice and thus our capacity to do both evil and good. And such a world is inferior to the one we have: one where love is possible, despite its inherent evil. What kind of God would do this? Only one kind. A God of love.

Why does a God of love allow evil? Because He is a God of LOVE.

So Great a Salvation

So, how practical is Christianity? The Bible presents an infinite Creator with the very attributes we would expect when we examine the things that are made. And God, as a personal Being, in order that He might have a love relationship with us, gave us the capacity of choice. In order that we might have a practical revelation of His love, His wisdom, His power, His glory, He became one of us in the person of the Messiah, Jesus Christ.

In order that we might not suffer the penalty of our evil choices (sin), He, like a loving father, paid the penalty for our sins. He allowed his only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, to be murdered on a Roman cross (arguably the most evil act in the history of the universe, if He is indeed God's Son). But this act of great evil gave rise to an even better state of affairs, and the greatest act of love in the universe: paying the penalty for the wrong choices we make, which were the result of the way He created us in the first place! In the cross of Christ He has provided a full pardon from the consequences of the evil in our lives. Consequently, we cannot look to God and declare that He is unfair. Far from being a devil, in this examination of the problem of evil, God becomes the hero of the plot and the solution to the problem of evil. And it all hinges on LOVE. Indeed, God is love.3 What must we do to receive this pardon?

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9

* * *




This article was originally published in the
June 1999 Personal Update NewsJournal.


Notes:      

  1. Romans 1:18-20.
  2. Personal UPDATE, May 1999
  3. For those that would like an in-depth treatment of the problem of evil and a God of love, I highly recommend Alvin Plantinga's book, God, Freedom and Evil.


TOPICS: Theology
KEYWORDS: choice; evil; freewill; good; love
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 221-239 next last

1 posted on 01/23/2004 5:41:12 PM PST by xzins
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: P-Marlowe; Revelation 911; The Grammarian; SpookBrat; Dust in the Wind; maestro; patent; ...
The skeptic that emailed me stated, in effect, that if an all-powerful God did not eliminate evil, then He was a devil! The implication is that the removal of all evil would permit a better, more loving world. A truly loving God, the skeptics assert, would have desired and created such a world because it is clearly superior to the one we have. Any God that did not follow this logic was not a God of love, but an evil tyrant.

As we have seen, this logic crumbles under its own weight. The existence of evil is the "side effect" of creating a world with love. But as we have seen, there are compelling arguments that a world possessing both evil and love is superior to a world where neither is possible. For God to eliminate evil, He would have to eliminate our capacity of choice and thus our capacity to do both evil and good. And such a world is inferior to the one we have: one where love is possible, despite its inherent evil. What kind of God would do this? Only one kind. A God of love.

Why does a God of love allow evil? Because He is a God of LOVE.

2 posted on 01/23/2004 5:42:15 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Vernon; Revelation 911; The Grammarian; P-Marlowe; Corin Stormhands
You'll definitely like this article ping!
3 posted on 01/23/2004 5:43:10 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: xzins; Alamo-Girl
Why Does God Allow Evil?

He doesn't!

Notice the 1st-2nd Law of Thermodynamics......

Yet,.....Miracles....Grace.....Mercy......Prayers abound!

Yet,.....Faith....Hope.....Agape!

God Rules........even,......Longsuffering.......!

Jesus/Lamb.......makes all the difference......VICTORY over 'sin'.....and sin's PENALTY!

ev Christ Jesus' Blood and GLORY!

(John 14:6.......John 3:36.....Philippians 1:6....) Maranatha!

(Romans 10:17)

4 posted on 01/23/2004 6:00:18 PM PST by maestro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: xzins
God is incapable of evil so I don't get the point
5 posted on 01/23/2004 6:14:01 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xzins
It's all about free will. Your conscience says it's right, your conscience says it's wrong. Kick in free will and I'll make the choice.

God through his grace, let us be free to use that free will. Too bad, so many have used it negatively...and then God gets blamed.

Shame on those satanic apolgists who blame God on all the bad things...but never the good things.
6 posted on 01/23/2004 6:21:56 PM PST by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed. Pray for our own souls to recieve the grace of a happy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AppyPappy
But you accept that evil exists? Yes?
7 posted on 01/23/2004 6:31:23 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: franky
You are 100% correct. They don't give God credit for the good things.
8 posted on 01/23/2004 6:31:59 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: xzins
Could God allow evil so that he can prove that the doers of evil don't love Him? Very good article by the way.
9 posted on 01/23/2004 6:47:29 PM PST by massiveblob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: massiveblob
Good question. I've often thought that that is one of the positive things that can eventually be brought out of the existence of evil.

The way we treat our earthly families and fellow christians can be used as a measure of whether or not we love them.
10 posted on 01/23/2004 6:53:48 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: xzins
bttt
11 posted on 01/23/2004 7:13:04 PM PST by Cvengr (;^))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: maestro
Thanks for the ping!

Actually, I have pondered on this at length and believe the answer to the question "Why does God allow Evil" rests with God's purpose.

Here's an excerpt from my musings in the article Evolution through the Backdoor:

Did God have a beginning?

Some people assert that God must have created Himself.

Others (I am one) say that God the Creator exists outside of space and time and thus there is no beginning for God, i.e. the creation is not something in which the Creator exists. There is no "before" the big bang or any multi-verse or dimensional parallel in ekpyrotic cosmology.

This is another area wherein each person must work out his own understanding. Mine is somewhat unique but is based on the Word, Jewish tradition and science:

One of the words used to describe God at creation is Ayn Sof which roughly translated from Hebrew means infinite and nothing. The scientific term for such a state at the beginning of this universe, is singularity - in which there are no physical laws, no space, no time, no particles, no geometry, no energy, nothing - and yet everything. It has a parallel in math as well, the number zero - nothing can be divided by it, anything multiplied by it is it, it is in between all positive and negative numbers. Infinite and not at the same time.

I pondered on this state at length and deduced that God must have wanted to reveal Himself and thus there was a beginning.

Then I pondered how God would go about revealing Himself. I deduced He would create beings who could think to whom He would reveal Himself and would commune. I further deduced how He would go about communicating Himself to these beings, i.e. that He is good and truth and so forth.

These attributes would have no meaning in any language unless they were set in contrast to what they are not. (How would you know if you are happy if you have never been sad?) Thus, I pondered that He would create good and evil, love and hate, et al so that a language could be formed, the Word.

I then pondered He would communicate His will to the thinking beings so they would know Him. I also pondered that, for the words to have meaning, He would give them numerous manifestations of all these contrasts - space/time, geometry, particles, energy, matter, creatures.

One of the ideas of the Jewish Kabbalah that rings true to my spirit is that the Scriptures are another name for God, i.e. it reveals who He is. So I see all of creation - spiritual and material - and the Word as God revealing Himself.

Enter Satan, beautiful and thinking being as he is, decided he ought to exalted. He became "aware" of his beauty and self and thus was at odds with God's will for him.

Likewise, Adam and Eve became "aware" of themselves and sought to be more by gaining the knowledge of good and evil. So likewise, they were at odds with God's will for them and were banished to mortality (the frog view.)

When it is all said and done I see us restored to what was intended at the beginning, we will be the thinking beings to whom God reveals Himself and with whom He communes. His will is what matters over all else. The Lord's Prayer reveals as much, the meaning of life and the purpose of our existence:

Our Father which art in heaven,
Hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come.
Thy will be done in earth, as [it is] in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil:
For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

IMHO, every believer ought to meditate deeply, every day, on the Lord's Prayer - phrase by phrase and word by word. Our place is sandwiched between God's purpose and His dominion.

In sum, I perceive that Adam was made to be a spectator of the physical realm in order to know God better and be able to commune with Him, but was banished to become part of the story itself for his disobedience. Naturally, the only way to rescue Adamic man from the penalty of disobedience is the perfect obedience of Christ on the cross.

12 posted on 01/23/2004 9:24:52 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: xzins
Of course evil exists.
13 posted on 01/24/2004 5:17:18 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: xzins
Helen Keller's answer to that question was,

"We could never learn to be brave and patient if there were only joy in the world."

Mine is, the only way we can become what God wants us to become is by living in a world where bad things can happen to good people with no apparent justification.
14 posted on 01/24/2004 6:27:20 AM PST by dsc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AppyPappy
The question of this article relates to the evil that exists.

If God is Good, and if God is the creator, then how and why evil?
15 posted on 01/24/2004 8:10:40 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: xzins
Some skeptics ask questions only a 3 year old would ask. THe answer is simple: Because God allows free will. Free will allows us to choose good from evil.
16 posted on 01/24/2004 8:16:42 AM PST by Conservative til I die
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xzins
Maybe the best reply to why evil exist is a combination of the different theories presented here. We can never be 100% sure until we get the chance to ask Him ourselves.
17 posted on 01/24/2004 8:21:54 AM PST by massiveblob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Alamo-Girl; P-Marlowe; Vernon
One of the most thoughtful and brave posts I've ever seen on this Forum, Alamo.

Others (I am one) say that God the Creator exists outside of space and time and thus there is no beginning for God, i.e. the creation is not something in which the Creator exists. There is no "before" the big bang or any multi-verse or dimensional parallel in ekpyrotic cosmology.

God's relationship to time is something that PM and I have been discussing for some time now. When they come up in the future from "time to time" (no pun intended), I'm going to ping you to them. Is that OK?

PM pointed me to this link at Koinonea House, and I liked it. I think you will to. It's a series of 5 presentation via sound file. Worth it, though.

Thanks for the contribution.

18 posted on 01/24/2004 8:26:39 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: massiveblob
I agree with you.

I like the presentation by the author, though. He does a thorough job in a relatively brief article.
19 posted on 01/24/2004 8:33:43 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: xzins
Because we don't see God as a puppeteer. Evil exists because we exist. It is the fallen nature of man.
20 posted on 01/24/2004 8:34:10 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 221-239 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson