[sitetest]

Dear thinktwice,

Actually, I didn't divide reality into three different subsets. Reality, itself, is the total set. Uncreated reality and created reality are the two subsets.

Is the universe, as a whole, created, or uncreated?

If it is uncreated, then there is an example of uncreated reality.

If it is created, then who created it? If no one created it, then it is uncreated.

"But ... I will not concede that thinking that something exists means that the 'something' exists."

I'm not asking you to concede anything. You don't have to believe in God. You don't have to believe in an uncreated reality (though you leave yourself an unrsolvable conundrum in that then you are implying that a created thing exists - the universe as a whole, without anything having created it).

You must only concede that the concept of an uncreated reality is possible, and that we would assign God to that sort of reality. It just isn't necessary to posit that there can only be a created reality.

Your error is in thinking that that which is not proven (God, uncreated reality), cannot be.

Thus the question, "Did God create God?" is unnecessary.

You may wish to read a good book of basic philosophy.


sitetest

[thinktwice]

Dear sitetest;

There is ample evidence proving that the universe exists, but no-one knows how it started.

You think the universe was created, but your evidence comes from ancient tales. You don't know.

Where I focus on reality being that which exists, you focus on reality as being "created" or "uncreated" because you think a "creation" happened. Maybe it did and maybe it didn't, but you'll have to face the fact that yours is a religious philosophy based in ancient tales, mystical beliefs, dogma, etc.; and that, to me, is sad.

We exist in a real world; and I see as evil those philosophies having problems with reality.