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To: jude24
The Church existed prior to the New Testament being written. The New Testament resulted from Catholic authors writng Catholic letters to Catholic Churches. Every single letter in every single word of every single sentence of every single paragraph of every single book in the N.T. was written by a Catholic and it was the Catholic Church which decided which books would be included in the New Testament and which books would not be included.
73 posted on 12/30/2003 4:44:06 PM PST by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: Catholicguy; jude24
Don't forget James, the first pope.
74 posted on 12/30/2003 4:47:09 PM PST by drstevej
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To: Catholicguy
Allow me, if I may.

Your argument would be like saying the Democrats are Constitutionalists. After all, the Constitution was written by those who would join the Democratic-Republican party. But to equate modern Democrats with the founders of the Constitution would be a mistake because it neglects two factors: firstly, that the Democratic-Republicans underwent a split in the 1850's to form the Democratic Party and the Republican party, and secondly, that the Democrats don't stand for the same things the Founders did (limited government, etc.)

Now, how do we know that that isn't the case with the Catholic church? That, over 2,000 years, their theology has evolved to get away from the apostolic teachings demonstrated in the New Testament, and that a closer representation of Christianity isn't found in the Orthodox or Reformed branches of Christianity?

(Incidentally, I'm trying to not bash... so please don't take offense in my comparing the Catholic church to the Democrats. I mean nothing by it other than an illustration.)

76 posted on 12/30/2003 4:51:50 PM PST by jude24 ("Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything thats even REMOTELY true!" -- H. Simpson)
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