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To: Catholicguy
Allow me, if I may.

Your argument would be like saying the Democrats are Constitutionalists. After all, the Constitution was written by those who would join the Democratic-Republican party. But to equate modern Democrats with the founders of the Constitution would be a mistake because it neglects two factors: firstly, that the Democratic-Republicans underwent a split in the 1850's to form the Democratic Party and the Republican party, and secondly, that the Democrats don't stand for the same things the Founders did (limited government, etc.)

Now, how do we know that that isn't the case with the Catholic church? That, over 2,000 years, their theology has evolved to get away from the apostolic teachings demonstrated in the New Testament, and that a closer representation of Christianity isn't found in the Orthodox or Reformed branches of Christianity?

(Incidentally, I'm trying to not bash... so please don't take offense in my comparing the Catholic church to the Democrats. I mean nothing by it other than an illustration.)

76 posted on 12/30/2003 4:51:50 PM PST by jude24 ("Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything thats even REMOTELY true!" -- H. Simpson)
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To: jude24
Totally wrong. As can be proved from innumerable sources and official Documents of the Living Magisterium - Documents of Ecumenical councils and Papal Encyclicals and Holy Writ itself - the Catholic Church is the only church that has never changed Doctrine. Doctrine does develop in the sense that, guided by the indewelling of the Holy Spirt, Holy Mother Church, over time, understands with more depth and clarity the Original deposit of Faith, however, she at no time, unlike protestant confessions, develops Doctrine that oppose that which came before. From day one she has taught the Real Presence in the Eucharist which can be proved form innumerable texts - beginning with the sixth Chapter of John.

Your comparison twixt a Divine Institution (Jesus established the church - matt 16:18) and a man made political system reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of what the truth is.

78 posted on 12/30/2003 4:58:54 PM PST by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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