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To: drstevej
An honest arminian admits that salvation is a personal decision.

Likewise, they pray "Lord, bring unending conviction on my friend Bubba." They know that Bubba must choose for himself (Or "herself" IF you're in Louisianna.)

Some less than thoughtful arminians pray "Lord, save my friendette, Bubba" but they MEAN "Lord, bring unending conviction on the sweet lass."
69 posted on 12/02/2003 5:03:09 AM PST by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: xzins
I find MOST Arminians are inconsistent rather than thoughtful. They fully believe in free will and yet still ask God to dave people and change their hearts. Few draw the fine distinction you present.

BTW, is the prayer "Lord, bring unending conviction on my friend Bubba." encouraging Divine harassment/ brainwashing on the order of a cult that bends minds via incessant progaganda?
70 posted on 12/02/2003 5:37:58 AM PST by drstevej (There is no Free Will in Heaven)
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To: xzins
An honest arminian admits that salvation is a personal decision. Likewise, they pray "Lord, bring unending conviction on my friend Bubba." They know that Bubba must choose for himself (Or "herself" IF you're in Louisianna.) Some less than thoughtful arminians pray "Lord, save my friendette, Bubba" but they MEAN "Lord, bring unending conviction on the sweet lass."

Seems to me you are asking God to act on her/him and change their free will..a very Calvinist prayer..but inconsistent with the "free will" choice that Arminians teach . That is making a puppet of your friend:>)

129 posted on 12/02/2003 1:58:39 PM PST by RnMomof7
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