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To: CARepubGal; MarMema; RnMomof7; Jean Chauvin
It was a post Eucharist bread. I don't know that we have an equivalent.

You're right -- I don't think that we Protestants do have an equivalent.

It is of course, to Protestants, perfectly acceptable for Communicants to consume the excess Eucharistic bread after the Supper; but it is not offered to non-communicants. I am reminded of an anecdote which I will relate from a few years back, in my early days in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church (remember, I came from a Zwinglian "symbolic memorial" non-denominational understanding of the Supper)..

The OPC church I am attending and will be going for membership in (have the Session interview Sunday) does serve the Lord's Supper but since my baptism was invalid (the Mormons don't count), I cannot partake until I am baptized.

This is proper.

The Presbyterian Church had to wrestle with the matter of Baptism and ReBaptism, and ultimately came to the conclusion that all Nicene and Trinitarian Baptisms are Valid, even when conducted in churches with whose theology we disagree. For example, we disagree with the theology of the Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholics, but we respect their baptisms as being genuinely Nicene and Trinitarian, and therefore Valid -- and not requiring ReBaptism.

"Baptisms" which are neither Nicene nor Trinitarian, however, are not received as Valid -- and are considered to be but Water-washings of religious formality, not Christian Baptism... whether Unitarian, Mormon, Pagan, or what have you.

I trust that you have already received (or soon will receive) proper Trinitarian Baptism, and I heartily look forward to your reception into the Orthodox Presbyterian Church!

Though I wonder if your love for Klompen Dancing does not mark you as too sympathetic to the Dutch Reformed for our Celtic Presbyterian tastes. I am of course aware that "If it ain't Dutch... it ain't much" -- but always remember: "If eet's not Schkottisch, eet's CRAAAAAAAAP!!"

best, OP


190 posted on 12/03/2003 12:27:05 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: Hermann the Cherusker; Tantumergo; Catholicguy
I am reminded of an anecdote which I will relate from a few years back, in my early days in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church (remember, I came from a Zwinglian "symbolic memorial" non-denominational understanding of the Supper)...

Re-Posted for the Commentary of the FR Catholic Caucus.

Best, OP

192 posted on 12/03/2003 3:31:34 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; CARepubGal; Wrigley; Jean Chauvin
(Are they "Dutch Presbyterians", or are we "Scottish Reformed"? The debate between the two most identical branches of Protestantism rages on! No holds barred, cage match!! ARE YOU READY TO RUUUUUUUUMBLE?!?!)

Rumble? I think most Dutch-Reformed consider the OPC to be adopted Dutchmen. When J. Gresham Machen was looking for someone to "apologize" for the OPC... he found one "Corny" dude. ;)

198 posted on 12/03/2003 5:44:11 AM PST by lockeliberty
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; xzins; Jean Chauvin; Wrigley; Gamecock; drstevej
I absolutely will receive proper Trinitarian Baptism (this will be something I bring up with Session this Sunday). You can blame Jean Chauvin and Wrigley for the Klompen dancing. Haggis is too nasty to contemplate and I am not coordinated enough (or Celtic enough for that matter) to Sword Dance (I think that is a boy dance anyway) ;-)

And thanks Dr Steve and xzins for your help also! ;-)

302 posted on 12/03/2003 7:45:01 PM PST by CARepubGal
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