[Jean Chauvin]

"Edwin Palmer would disagree with this claim. His book is quite clear that when he talks about predestination, he is limiting it to total depravity and unconditional election."

I suppose that if I ask you for proof of this with a quote from Palmer that I will get it in the same timely manner in which you have supplied the promised "proof" of your contention that Edwin Palmer is a "hyper-Calvinist".

Oh, wait, that's right...you've never produced any proof (that you promised) whatsoever of your claim that Edwin Palmer is a "hyper-Calvinist".

Furthermore, you've never produced your promised "Saturday Night Special".

And I think you still owe drstevej an explanation in your own words of just how God's love is defined.

Jean

[connectthedots]

I have answerd the questions and I have made specific cites from Palmer's book. The problem the swarm has is that it seems to not like quotations from the Bible as answers to questions. It also appears that the swarm does not like definitions/discriptions of hyper-Calvinism that come from widely accepted Calvinists such as Spurgeon. But then again, one of the indications of a hyper-Calvinist is one who claims there is no such thing as hyper-Calvinism or hyper-Calvinists. I believe it was Phillip Johnson who made that statement.

And I think you still owe drstevej an explanation in your own words of just how God's love is defined.

drstevj does not think the words of the Bible cannot adequately explain or illustrate the love of God. He apparently thinks something needs to be added to scripture.

If you think you can improve on the Bible, give it a try.