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To: american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Congratulations to Gerry Matatics and thanks to John Pacheco and the Catholic-Legate for posting the details on this debate.

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As many faithful Catholics are painfully aware, the Church's doctrines are always under attack by Her enemies. When the attacks are veiled by an air of scholarly research and presentation, they can become a source of doubt to some Catholics or a stumbling block to those wishing to become Catholic.

In recent years, Eric Svendsen of New Testament Research Ministries has taken aim at the Catholic Church's teaching about Mary and in particular her perpetual virginity. He has even written a book entitled Who is My Mother? - The Role and Status of the Mother of Jesus in the New Testament and Roman Catholicism, attacking the Church's teaching about Mary and her virginity. This is a book which has such a veneer of scholarly research and professional detachment.

It is, in fact, neither.

In order to convince Catholics that Our Lady lost her virginity, Svendsen utilizes the conspicuous until in Matthew 1:25. Instead of focusing on the traditional Protestant polemic surrounding 'until', he concentrates on a particular Greek grammatical construction for the 'until' in Matthew 1:25. It is alleged that this Greek phrase in question, heõs hou for the uninitiated, proves that Mary did indeed lose her virginity.

It is my pleasure to release a thorough refutation of this claim, presented below and entitled Heõs Hou and the Protestant Polemic. It will hopefully shatter all pretense and veiled legitimacy of this argument, which, for too long now, has been floating around cyberspace with impunity.

The Heõs Hou polemic is now over - for good.

Blessed Be Mary Ever-Virgin!

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Heõs Hou and the Protestant Polemic by John Pacheco

2 posted on 11/19/2003 11:04:57 AM PST by NYer ("Close your ears to the whisperings of hell and bravely oppose its onslaughts." ---St Clare Assisi)
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To: NYer
Dueling scholars.....always as fun as watching the water boil.

In this case, I don't really mind if Mary remained a virgin. It's possible.

But there's a legitimate argument on either side. I don't think there's a salvific issue at stake either way since Mary is not a co-redemptrix. Do you agree with that?
3 posted on 11/19/2003 12:52:45 PM PST by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: NYer
Marian bump!
11 posted on 11/19/2003 1:33:48 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer
Heõs Hou and the Protestant Polemic by John Pacheco

Bump for a later read.

32 posted on 11/19/2003 6:08:22 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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