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To: Havoc; dangus
So if they teach sin as doctrine, you're afraid of being kicked out for pointing it out.

He didn't say anythign remotely like that. Lying is still a sin, ya know?

You aren't just worried about being apostate, you're worried about losing all your family and friends. Catholicism is like the mob in that regard. Try to leave and you are an evil to be scraped off.

You really are ignorant. People who leave other churches to become Catholic face just as much "harrassment." Only a bigot like yourself would think it's one sided. Ask James White's sister.

The rest is your usual bloated nonsense. Have at it, no one's listening.

SD

269 posted on 11/05/2003 8:45:19 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
He didn't say anythign remotely like that. Lying is still a sin, ya know?

It's the logical extension of his statement Dave. Nothing more or less. He proffered what he said in reply and I accepted it as such. What he said begged the issue. We arent' unfamiliar with this issue either. Who here doesn't know that being labled by the church puts you out of favor with friends, family, ..anyone that is Catholic. But your own teaching creates the Quandry and we need only look to history to see that when the people had enough of the hypocricy and error of the church, they often were put to death for their responses to it - were chased to the ends of the earth, or revolted against the church and schizmed. Valla nearly went before the inquisition for telling the truth about the lies of Catholicism in his time. Not for being in error, wrong, etc; but, for exposing the truth.

It is built into your system. Cover it up, hide it and persecute or expel anyone that makes waves. What level of indignation do you think would exist in the 'church' if the law had not got involved in the recent priest scandals? Who do you think would know. One can be assured no one would have lost his job - much less gone to jail. That all came about by external pressure. Tell us a story Dave. I haven't heard really good fiction in a while.

284 posted on 11/05/2003 9:23:21 AM PST by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: SoothingDave
Have at it, no one's listening.

You obviously are.
352 posted on 11/06/2003 8:03:11 AM PST by OLD REGGIE ((I am a cult of one! UNITARJEWMIAN))
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