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To: SoothingDave
He didn't say anythign remotely like that. Lying is still a sin, ya know?

It's the logical extension of his statement Dave. Nothing more or less. He proffered what he said in reply and I accepted it as such. What he said begged the issue. We arent' unfamiliar with this issue either. Who here doesn't know that being labled by the church puts you out of favor with friends, family, ..anyone that is Catholic. But your own teaching creates the Quandry and we need only look to history to see that when the people had enough of the hypocricy and error of the church, they often were put to death for their responses to it - were chased to the ends of the earth, or revolted against the church and schizmed. Valla nearly went before the inquisition for telling the truth about the lies of Catholicism in his time. Not for being in error, wrong, etc; but, for exposing the truth.

It is built into your system. Cover it up, hide it and persecute or expel anyone that makes waves. What level of indignation do you think would exist in the 'church' if the law had not got involved in the recent priest scandals? Who do you think would know. One can be assured no one would have lost his job - much less gone to jail. That all came about by external pressure. Tell us a story Dave. I haven't heard really good fiction in a while.

284 posted on 11/05/2003 9:23:21 AM PST by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: Havoc; SoothingDave
It's the logical extension of his statement Dave.

Logical extentions often aren't logical.

287 posted on 11/05/2003 9:27:35 AM PST by connectthedots
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