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A long but worthy read! John Pacheco is Director, Apologist for Catholic Legate.

bookmarked for later reading

Thanks for the post. I'll be back later.

No where in the bible does it say that once someone dies, we are to stop honouring them.

Why do Catholics spend more time honoring people than Jesus?

There is a difference between honoring someone and praying to them. Prayer is a form of worship. The scriptures tell us that, "For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus" 1 Tim 2:5. If there is only ONE, then why pray to anyone else.

The topic of saints is a sticky wicket for Protestants. Good to have all this information on hand for discussions with them. thanks.

Lord, have mercy on us. Lord, have mercy on us. Christ, hear us. God, the father of heaven, God the son, redeemer of the world, God the Holy Ghost, Holy Trinity, one God, Holy Mary, Holy Mother of God, Holy virgin of virgins, St. Michael, St. Gabriel, St. Raphael, All ye Holy Angels and Archangels, All ye Holy Orders of Blessed spirits, St. John the Baptist, St. Joseph, All ye Holy Patriarchs and Prophets, St. Peter, St. Paul, St. Andrew, St. James, St. John, St. Thomas, St. James, St. Philip, St. Bartholomew, St. Matthew, . St. Simon, pray for us. St. Thaddeus, pray for us. St. Barnabas, pray for us. St. Luke, pray for us. St. Mark, pray for us. All ye Holy Apostles and Evangelist, All ye Holy Disciples of Our Lord, All ye Holy Innocents, . St. Stephen, St. Lawrence, . St. Vincent, Ss. Fabian and Sebastian, Ss. John and Paul, Ss. Cosmos and Damian, Ss. Gervase and Protase, All ye Holy Martyrs, St. Sylvester, St. Gregory, St. Ambrose, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, St. Martin, St. Nicholas, All ye Holy Bishops and Confessors, All ye Holy Doctors, St. Anthony, St. Benedict, St. Bernard, St. Dominic, St. Francis, All ye Holy Priest and Levites, All ye Holy Monks and Hermits, . St. Mary Magdalen, St. Agatha, St. Lucy, St. Agnes, St. Cecilia, St. Catherine, St. Anastasia, All ye Holy Virgins and Widows, All ye Men and Women, Saints of God, Be merciful, Be merciful, From all evil, From all sin, From thy wrath, From a sudden and unprovided death, From the deceits of the devil, From anger, hatred, and all ill will, From the spirit of fornication, From lightning and tempest, From the scourge of earthquake, From pestilence, famine, and war, From everlasting death, Through the mystery of thy holy incarnation, Through thy coming, Through thy nativity, Through thy baptism and holy fasting, Through thy cross and passion, Through thy death and burial, Through thy holy resurrection, Through thine admirable ascension, Through the coming of the holy ghost, the paraclete, In the day of judgment, That thou wouldst spare us, That thou wouldst pardon us, That thou wouldst vouchsafe to bring us to true penance, That thou wouldst vouchsafe to govern and preserve thy holy church.... 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Our Father (ect.) ..... V- And Lead Us Not Into Temptation. R- But Deliver Us From Evil. Psalm LXIX Incline unto my aid, O God. O Lord, make haste to help me. Let them be confounded and ashamed that seek my soul. Let them be turned backward and blush for shame that desire evils to me. Let them be presently turned away blushing for shame that say to me, "Tis well, 'tis well." Let all that seek Thee rejoice and be glad in Thee; and let such as love Thy salvation say always, The Lord be magnified. But I am needy and poor: O God, help me. Thou art my helper and my deliverer; O Lord, make no delay. Glory Be To The Father, (etc)........ V- Save Thy servants. R- Trusting in Thee, O my God. V- Be unto us, O Lord, a tower a strength. R- From the face of the enemy. V- Let not the enemy prevail against us. R- Nor the son of iniquity have power to hurt us. V- O Lord, do not deal with us according to our sins. R- Neither reward us according to our iniquities. V- Let us pray for our chief bishop: (name) R- The Lord preserve him, and give him life, and make him blessed upon the earth, and deliver him not up to the will of his enemies. V- Let us pray for our benefactors. R- Vouchsafe, O Lord, for Thy name's sake, to reward with eternal life all those who do us good. V- Let us pray for the faithful departed. R- Eternal rest give unto them, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon them. V- May they rest in peace. R- Amen. V- For our absent brethren. R- Save Thy servants who hope in Thee, O my God. V- Send them help, O Lord, from Thy holy place. R- And from Sion protect them. V- O Lord, hear my prayer. R- And let my cry come unto Thee.
Let us pray- O God, Whose property is always to have mercy and to spare, receive our petition, that we and all Thy servants who are bound by the chain of sin, may, by the compassion of Thy goodness, mercifully be absolved. Hear, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the prayers of Thy supplicants, and pardon the sins of those who confess to Thee, that, in Thy bounty, Thou mayest grant us both pardon and peace. In Thy clemency, O Lord, show Thy unspeakable mercy to us, that so Thou mayest both loose us from all our sins and deliver us from the punishments which we deserve for them. O God, who by sin art offended and by penance pacified, mercifully regard the prayers of Thy people, who make supplication to Thee, and turn away the scourges of Thine anger, which we deserve for our sins. O almighty and eternal God, have mercy on Thy servant (Name), our chief bishop, and direct him according to Thy clemency, in the way of everlasting salvation, that, by Thy grace, he may desire the things that are pleasing to Thee, and perform them with all his strength. O God, from Whom are all holy desires, righteous counsels, and just works, give to Thy servants that peace which the world cannot give; that, our hearts being disposed to keep Thy commandments, and the fear of enemies taken away, the times, by Thy protection, may be peaceful. Inflame, O Lord, our reins and hearts with the fire of the Holy Spirit; that we may serve Thee with a chaste body, and please Thee with a clean heart. O God, the Creator and Redeemer of all the faithful, give to the souls of Thy servants departed the remission of all their sins, that through pious supplications they may obtain the pardon they have always desired. Direct, we beseech Thee, O Lord, our actions by Thy holy inspirations, and carry them on by Thy gracious assistance; that every prayer and work of ours may always begin from Thee, and through Thee be happily ended. O almighty and eternal God, Who hast dominion over the living and the dead, and art merciful to all who Thou foreknowest will be Thine by faith and good works: we humbly beseech Thee that they for whom we have purposed to offer our prayers, whether this present world still detains them in the flesh or the next world hath already received them divested of their bodies, may, by the intercession of Thy saints and the clemency of Thy goodness, obtain pardon and full remission of all their sins. Through Our Lord Jesus Christ, Thy Son, Who liveth and reigneth with Thee in the unity of the Holy Ghost, God, world without end. R- Amen. V- O Lord, hear my prayer. R- And let my cry come unto Thee. V- May the almighty and merciful Lord graciously hear us. R- Amen. V- And my the souls of the faithful departed throught the mercy of God, rest in peace. R- Amen.