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To: irishtenor
You said Mary sinned. The Christian Church has always taught Mary's sinlessness. So, to say Mary sinned is a heresy and, because all heresies are lies, you lied.
47 posted on 10/28/2003 2:36:04 PM PST by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: Catholicguy; Gamecock
Romans 3:10 - There is no one righteous, not even one. That includes Mary.
Revelation 5:2-4 - No one in heaven or on earth was found to be worthy to break the seal of the scrolls. What did it take? Someone who was without sin. Mary was not worthy to do this.
Romans 3:23 - For all have sinned. Not for all but Mary have sinned.
If Mary was really without sin, I am sure it would have been mentioned very clearly, using no ambiguous wording. There is no ambiguity in the scripture I just gave you.

The problem with you calling me a liar is that I will use the Bible as my defence. If you now persist in calling me a liar, you are also calling God a liar, as I am using his word as my defence. Now, do you dare to call God a liar?
48 posted on 10/28/2003 3:36:45 PM PST by irishtenor (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati ............(When all else fails, play dead))
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To: Catholicguy; irishtenor
My friend, you can quote twisted doctrine, reformers and anyone else you want. We will be judged on Scripture.

Read the passaged below. Scripture makes me wise, not doctrine. Where does doctrine come from? Scripture! I can read it for myself. It says so here!


2 Timothy 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness
49 posted on 10/28/2003 5:38:47 PM PST by Gamecock (Going to church no more makes you a christian than sleeping in your garage makes you a car. Keiler)
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To: Catholicguy
The Christian Church has always taught Mary's sinlessness.

Please define who you include in the 'Christian Church'. I was never taught this.

51 posted on 10/28/2003 7:40:50 PM PST by PFKEY
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To: Catholicguy
Still waiting for a retraction.
104 posted on 10/29/2003 8:28:12 PM PST by irishtenor (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati ............(When all else fails, play dead))
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