I tried to post this to the News/Activism Forum but was blocked, so it has been posted here.
PL.EASE GET THIS NEWS TO THOSE IN THE OTHER FORUM!
1 posted on
10/26/2003 8:37:27 AM PST by
NYer
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The guy is trolling for sympathy!! He's found a willing ear and a large audience in Larry King. Spread the news .. please
2 posted on
10/26/2003 8:39:52 AM PST by
NYer
("Close your ears to the whisperings of hell and bravely oppose its onslaughts." ---St Clare Assisi)
To: NYer
1) Doctors do not agree on what is a "vegetative state." Therefore, judges cannot rule on a person's being in such a state;
first, because judges are on record as constantly regarding themselves to not be medical "experts," and therefore, they haven't the standing to decide what is or is not a "vegetative state," and second, because such a "state" is not defined clearly enough as our Constituion requires the weight of evidence to be, in the face of certain death as a possible outcome of the decision.
2) The Constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment.
If the government issues an order for a person to be put to death, in this case, "to kill an in-capacitated ward," that death must be swift, and torture cannot be used --- starvation is considered to be torture.
3) For the government to proceed with a court order to kill Terri Schiavo, Terri would have had to clearly and convincingly stated both:
that she "would not want to live that way" as she is alleged by her husband to have once said, and that she understood that she might die, not only by having artificial life support denied her, but also by being denied food and water: she may be starved to death on her on volition.
4) Absent Constitutional authority for judges to order the killing of a person by tortuous means, no government within the United States has the power to carry out such an order.
4 posted on
10/26/2003 9:22:02 AM PST by
First_Salute
(God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
To: NYer
I don't know why this story is deemed "religious" and not "current news." Even before I had a re-conversion and I lived fully in the secular world, I would have thought this story was appalling and Mr. Schiavo's "works" were immoral and inhumane.
It still amazes me that this story is only a small footnote in the mainstream media outlets. No one I know knows much if anything about this. When I explain the facts to them they kind of look uncomfortable and change the subject. Not too many people like to take strongly held stands on issues anymore and I think that is because the lines between good and evil are very blurred for most of us.
God have mercy on us all.
PS. I'd like Mr. Shiavo to have the guts to appear on the O'Reilly or Hannity and Colmes shows. Larry King is a master at softball stuff. Must be all those wives.
To: NYer
We need to counter this with photos of Terri and storeis of what she was like before her "accident". We should have someone interview people who knew her and pass that to the MEdia who have sympathy for Terri. Perhaps Sean Hannity would have her best friend on T.V. talking about the good old days. Put a human face on this person the left thinks is a vegetable.
14 posted on
10/26/2003 10:12:20 AM PST by
Diva Betsy Ross
((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
To: NYer
We need to counter this with photos of Terri and storeis of what she was like before her "accident". We should have someone interview people who knew her and pass that to the MEdia who have sympathy for Terri. Perhaps Sean Hannity would have her best friend on T.V. talking about the good old days. Put a human face on this person the left thinks is a vegetable.
15 posted on
10/26/2003 10:12:29 AM PST by
Diva Betsy Ross
((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
To: NYer
I wonder who is orchestrating this PR blitz for Death Inc.
With the ACLU on board the media, of course, will now stand with them.
Only question is; will the people be fooled?
20 posted on
10/26/2003 10:54:37 AM PST by
isrul
To: NYer
I think this was considered a duplicate thread and it is also technically a vanity, of course. Don't worry other news stories are still coming up in the main forum.
26 posted on
10/26/2003 11:22:24 AM PST by
TaxRelief
(Welcome to the only website dedicated to the preservation of a free republic.)
To: NYer
Did you deliberately post this to religion, or did the moderators move it. This belongs on the news forum, not in religion!
31 posted on
10/26/2003 11:29:55 AM PST by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: NYer
Bulletin: Eleanor Clift calls for Terri's death!!!
Popular "Newsweek" columnist and panelist on PBS's "McLaughlin Group" this weekend called for immediate death for the stricken disabled FL woman Terri Schindler Schiavo. The fact that Clift, who started with "Newsweek" 40 years ago as a fact checker, endorses the "right-to-die" is no surprise. What was surprising was her vehemence that Terri be immediatley starved and deydrated again. Clift considers her a distasteful "vegetable."
John McLaughin, a former Catholic priest and former husband of Reagan's Labor Secretary Ann McLaughlin, should have fired her on the set for a lack of the "compassion" that she has long claimed to represent. It could have been like that time many years ago (I read about it, didn't see it) when Arthur Godfrey fired Julius LaRosa on the air.
Panelist Pat Buchanan opposed death for Terri, but the segment ended before he could elaborate on his coments.
I am sending this to other Terri threads to get maximum exposure.
To: NYer
Thank you NYer for the INFO. Sorry it was blocked too. At a time where a life is in the balance!!
34 posted on
10/26/2003 11:35:21 AM PST by
pollywog
(Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
To: NYer
Michael Schiavo couldn't polish his image with a diamond emery board. But I'd like to help. I think he should become a celebrity by starring in his own soap opera:
MICHAEL MURDERS TERRI with loads of high drama as he makes new attempts on her life every week. The public loves celebrities. Look what OJ got away with by being a celebrity.
I can see James Brolin playing Felos McMoonbeam, crusading Death Angel and lawyer, and, oh, Hannibal Lecter playing Judge Grrrrr. The show's already been running for thirteen years, Michael might as well syndicate it.
45 posted on
10/26/2003 11:58:28 AM PST by
T'wit
To: NYer
Thank you for 1: Posting this article
And thank you for 2: Introducing me to Fr Rob! What an awesome young man!
To: NYer
If Felos is on LKL with Michael, maybe someone will ask him if he favors euthanizing the disabled in the absence of written directive. Children don't write living wills, what of brain-damaged children?
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