To: Pyro7480
Talk about jumping to conclusions. What many Catholics would like to get rid of is the distortion of history by the enemies of the Church. There is no major movement, religion, or civilization whose history has been WITHOUT blood. ~ Pyro
We Predestinarians seem to have been on the short end of almost all of it. You would be amazed at the roll call of the blessed martyrs for the number of Predestinarians slaughtered by Rome and her illegitmate Arminian offspring.
Woody.
18 posted on
10/16/2003 11:01:39 AM PDT by
CCWoody
(Recognize that all true Christians will be Calvinists in glory,...)
To: CCWoody
We Predestinarians seem to have been on the short end of almost all of it.
So not true. Off the top of my head, I can think of the destruction, beatings, burnings, murders, and other atrocities that took place in Calvinist Switzerland. My favorite spiritual writer was threatened with death on a number of occasions as he traveled through that region trying to convert people back to the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. But he remained steadfast, preaching and passing out religious tracts, and ended up converting thousands (72,000 approximately) of people back.
19 posted on
10/16/2003 11:08:33 AM PDT by
Pyro7480
(“We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid" - Benjamin Franklin)
To: CCWoody
Case in point:
The Saint Bartholomew's Day Massacre.
20 posted on
10/16/2003 11:08:54 AM PDT by
Gamecock
(Piel, a Pope for eternity)
To: CCWoody
>> We Predestinarians seem to have been on the short end of almost all of it.
Read what Calvin's followers did to France. You may call it "the short end," because they lost, but their barbarism was unparalelled. Btw, the French who won were also morally repugnant, so don't bother sending me the lists of "Calvinist martyrs" in France. In fact, the church excommunicated much of the army's leadership... a far cry from the way Calvinists have prortrayed their guys as saints.
Oh, and the absolute monarchy that followed was also heretical. I'm afraid the Church tolerated it out of fear of the Calvinists.
29 posted on
10/16/2003 11:26:52 AM PDT by
dangus
To: CCWoody
"We Predestinarians seem to have been on the short end of almost all of it."
If that were true I guess it must have been pre-destined - just like in the days of Elijah.
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