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Frontline Concedes [lying about Iraq]
AndrewSullivan.com ^ | October 11, 2003 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 10/11/2003 7:12:37 PM PDT by Roscoe Karns

 
FRONTLINE CONCEDES: Here's a fascinating encounter with the producer of the Frontline special on the war against Saddam, Martin Smith. It's from the Washington Post's online chat today:

Boston, Mass: Why did Martin Smith at least twice say while conducting an interview in the program that "Americans were sold this war as an imminent threat..." That is a bold face lie, an untruth from beginning to end. In President Bush's state of the union speech, he specifically countered that argument by in essence saying we cannot afford to wait until the threat from Iraq is imminent. For a program with Truth in it's title, that's a big slip up and I heard Mr. Smith say it at least twice.

Martin Smith: I'm glad you asked this question. I believe I may have used the term "imminent threat" more than twice. If you go back to the records you will see that while the president does not use the exact phrase, he talks about a "grave and gathering danger." He talks about Saddam's ability to launch chemical or biological weapons in 45 minutes.

No one that I spoke to in the administration who supported the war quibbled with the use of the term "imminent threat." It's simply not a quotation - it's a summary of the president's assessment.

Boston, Mass: No, Martin: it's a bold face lie, an untruth from beginning to end.
Good for you, Mr Boston. What we see here is that Smith has interpreted what the administration said before the war to be an "imminent threat." But the only time I know of that the exact phrase was used was in president Bush's critical State of the Union address before the war. And in that speech, this is what Bush said:
"Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option."
Yes, that is a "grave and gathering danger." But it is not "imminent." In fact, it specifically makes a distinction that Smith's propaganda elides. Think I'm as biased as Smith? Here's how the leading anti-war Democrat - yes, Howard Dean - described Bush's position on September 29, 2002: "The president has never said that Saddam has the capability of striking the United States with atomic or biological weapons any time in the immediate future." I would say that "any time in the immediate future" is as good a definition as any of the word "imminent." So was even Howard Dean spinning for Bush? Of course not. He was summing up the simple truth. Smith is distorting the historical record to make a fake case against the administration. Perhaps it was intentional; perhaps he was just so blinded by liberal bias he even believed his own untruths. But this time, he's been caught.

JUST A REMINDER: Here are a few choice quotes from Democrats in the period leading up to the war to disarm and depose Saddam. They are all almost identical to the Bush administration's statements. None claim an "imminent" threat. All suggest a real and growing danger. Some of the intelligence may well turn out to be wrong. But their concerns were real; and their judgment correct. Again, the imminent meme has to be challenged before the anti-war media make this untruth truth:

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." --Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." --Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." --Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction... [W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..." --Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.
With thanks to Snopes.com and Don Luskin.
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To: Roscoe Karns
You can watch the entire 90 minutes on the web at: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/truth/
21 posted on 10/11/2003 9:23:28 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield (TANSTAAFL)
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To: JoJo Gunn
And the line I just quoted doesn't exist on the Compost's page, though I know they might have edited it out.

You're right. I'm going to "Email Sullivan" about this. (Thanks for pointing it out.)

22 posted on 10/11/2003 9:57:42 PM PDT by Roscoe Karns
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To: Dako no tane
The program showed tape of Bush saying the 45 minute thing. I was surprised, because I also did not remember him saying that.

Yeah, I think they clipped it so you didn't hear him attribute that to British intelligence. (Same thing they did with the 14/16 words.) As I said previously those who belied Smith's mewling quibbles received a reasonable amount of air time, but there were several times that it seemed the film was clipped soley to protect Smith's spin. As I remember Smith whimpered the "no links to al-Qaeda" lie in an interview with Makiya, and Makiya answered something like, "that's your spin, not mine," but it sounded like he had more to say that was cut off.

23 posted on 10/11/2003 10:34:15 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The horrible truth is that people are falling for this crap. Many of my friends and co workers who once supported Bush now are repeating the leftist's talking points they see on the media and are turning against the President and the war on terror.
To me, they have gone so far, that this is bordering on treason against this country. They are putting our troops and all of us in mortal danger with their lies. I am very much questioning whose side they are on.
24 posted on 10/11/2003 10:41:21 PM PDT by ladyinred (Talk about a revolution, look at California!!! We dumped Davis!!!)
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To: Britton J Wingfield
Bump
25 posted on 10/12/2003 12:22:18 AM PDT by jokar (Beware the White European Male Christian theological complex !!)
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To: ladyinred
Lucifer's side. The U.S. is the most hated nation in the world becaise it was founded on Christian principles by Christians.
26 posted on 10/12/2003 7:56:58 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Stultis
Thanks for the info. I never want to "Throw the baby out with the bath water," so I'll tune in again. Maybe I just happened to catch the worst of the worst.
27 posted on 10/14/2003 4:15:40 AM PDT by irishlass
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