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Science Plans 'Non-Stick' Submarine
BBC ^ | 10-11-2003

Posted on 10/11/2003 4:21:38 PM PDT by blam

Science plans 'non-stick' submarine

US nanotechnologists are developing what they think could be the ultimate non-stick surface.

The needles are just a couple of millionths of a metre apart

It is covered with nano-scale needles that enable a liquid, for example, to slip straight off it.

One application could be non-stick submarines, which would glide through the water with much less resistance and require less force and fuel to propel them.

"If you think about submarines in a marine environment, the defence department will be very excited to hear about this," CJ Kim, an engineer at the University of California at Los Angeles, told BBC World Service's Discovery programme.

Water hating

Dr Kim explained how the technology worked.

"We call it nano-turf - artificial turf with nano-scale crest structures," he said.

The technology could produce ultra-efficient - if expensive - raincoats

"The surface is repelling water. It is densely populated so it will let the water flow against air instead of a solid surface, which makes it very slippery.

"When we roll a drop of water on this surface, we make it 99%, or more, less sticky than the flat surface."

He added that in order to maximise the non-stop qualities, the miniature spikes had to be sharp, while the material itself should already be as non-stick as possible.

"Right now we're using Teflon, which is one of the best water-repelling materials known to us today," he said.

"Overall, you get a far better slippery effect than normal flat Teflon surfaces."

Expensive raincoat

As well as coating submarines, another application of this technology could be in waterproofing clothes.

Rain would fall and simply run off any garment either made out of or coated with the nano-turf - and the wearer would never get wet.

However, Dr Kim conceded this would be a rather costly way of staying dry.

"For simple water-repelling, this will work better than anything else you know - but be a lot more expensive."

He added that nano-turf was more likely to appeal to heavy industrial use in the future.

"Fundamentally it is not limited to a micrometer scale," he stressed.

"The surface is slippery to any flow, so if somebody wants to use a macro - or bigger, regular scale - it will still work.

"In principle it is possible to flow chemical ingredients, or even fuels, long distances with a lot less energy consumption."

Gecko inspiration

At the other extreme, nanotechnology is also being used to create the stickiest surface possible.

Scientists in both Britain and the US have been using the gecko - which can haul its bulk up glass walls and hang from smooth ceilings - as the inspiration to make the ultimate adhesive tape.

Synthetic hairs will now mimic gecko feet. The scale bar is again two microns.

"These animals have evolved the perfect adhesive, using micro and nano-scale hairs," US nanotechnology engineer Metin Sitti told Discovery.

"Imagine your normal hair, and then scale that down a thousand times.

"Then you have these hairs - but at the end of these hairs, one thousand times smaller again, are smaller hairs."

The hairs on geckos' feet are made of the same material as human nails, and can deform when pressed into a surface. This allows the gecko to cling on.

But the real trick is molecular attraction. The hairs set up tiny forces - so-called Van der Waals forces - that clamp gecko feet down on even the underside of horizontal glass.

Synthetic versions of the gecko hairs have now been developed.

Rescue robots

Dr Sitti said that the first target was to incorporate the new adhesive materials into lightweight robots.

These would be able to climb walls to aid search and rescue missions.

Nasa is keen to adopt the ultra-sticky gecko glue

And he added that the US space agency Nasa had plans to use the materials as early as next year.

"One big project is space robots - in space, amongst other things, there is not much weight. So the first spider-man will happen in space, not on Earth," he said.

"Astronauts will have these glues and adhesives that they can stick on space shuttle surfaces and walk about."

In theory, being able to stick to the side of the shuttle or space station would make space walks much less dangerous.

But Dr Sitti stressed that real spider-men might still be a little way off.

"The extreme is phone calls we have asking if these glues could carry people on walls," he said.

"I think that's a little futuristic - maybe five or 10 years ahead at least."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: miltech; nanotech; nanoturf; nonstick; science; submarine

1 posted on 10/11/2003 4:21:38 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
This gets my vote for "Weird post of the day."
2 posted on 10/11/2003 4:24:03 PM PDT by LibKill (Force has settled more issues than any other factor. Forget that fact and pay large.)
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3 posted on 10/11/2003 4:25:48 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: blam
Now we know what makes Slick Willie so slick - mutant skin!
4 posted on 10/11/2003 4:29:50 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
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To: blam
In former days, there were geckos in my house

On occasion the suction would fail and down from the ceiling they came.

Ge Ge GeGek Gek Gecko!
5 posted on 10/11/2003 4:33:49 PM PDT by bert (Don't Panic!)
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To: bert
In former days, there were geckos in my house

I hear you can save money with geckos

6 posted on 10/11/2003 4:36:35 PM PDT by byteback
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To: byteback
Somewhere I remember a fateful Gecko saying, "Greed is good!" Or maybe it was a gekko that said it ...
7 posted on 10/11/2003 4:58:47 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: bert
Wasn’t that an old Elvis song?

"In the Gecko"

8 posted on 10/11/2003 5:45:58 PM PDT by tophat9000
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To: LibKill
No, honestly, this is not a weird post but pretty mainstream technology today. The concept is not far away from holographic imaging with interfering laser beams onto a regular film/emulsion. A grating is created. The grating is etched at the micron scale.

Shining laser light through this grating creates a definite sought after pattern of light. Sometimes these gratings or patterns are computed like the sub example, thus nanotechnologies include many applications. When just light is steered we call these photonics.
9 posted on 10/11/2003 6:11:30 PM PDT by inPhase
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...Nanotechnologists on their way to work.
10 posted on 10/11/2003 6:18:54 PM PDT by Consort
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To: blam
"The surface is repelling water. It is densely populated so it will let the water flow against air instead of a solid surface, which makes it very slippery. When we roll a drop of water on this surface, we make it 99%, or more, less sticky than the flat surface."

This stuff appears to work by retaining "nano-bubbles" of air between the "spikes", so the actual interface to flow is across the skin of a bubble, rather than against the "spikes". I suspect that with long-term immersion (as with a submarine or in a pipeline), those "nano-bubbles" will eventually be displaced by the liquid, and the "superior slipperiness" will disappear.

It should work great for the raincoat, though, since that isn't exposed to liquid sufficiently long for the surface to "wet out" before it is dried off again.

11 posted on 10/11/2003 6:37:36 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Wonder Warthog
"I suspect that with long-term immersion (as with a submarine or in a pipeline), those "nano-bubbles" will eventually be displaced by the liquid, and the "superior slipperiness" will disappear."

Does sound troublesome...surely someone thought about this before 'going-public' with this application, huh?

12 posted on 10/11/2003 7:01:11 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
If the stuff is so slick how's they gonna get it to stick to the submarine ? ;-)
13 posted on 10/11/2003 8:01:01 PM PDT by festus
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To: Wonder Warthog
"This stuff appears to work by retaining "nano-bubbles" of air between the "spikes", so the actual interface to flow is across the skin of a bubble, rather than against the "spikes". I suspect that with long-term immersion (as with a submarine or in a pipeline), those "nano-bubbles" will eventually be displaced by the liquid, and the "superior slipperiness" will disappear."

Yes, you are correct about how this works, but it should not fade away, as long as the structure of the nano hair remains intact.

This technique plays off the molecular surface tension of the water--the molecular attraction between each water molecule. This force is such that the water molecules cannot bend around the hair tips to get into the spaces (bubbles) between the hairs.

This is the same technique used by water striders as they walk on water--their feet have little hairs on them that prevent them from sinking past the water surface tension.

Another way this technique might fail is running into oil in the water--the oil breaks the water surface tension.

I would like to have a body suit of this material and see how fast I can swim. I swim at about 2 mph over a distance of a mile. With 99% of the water resistance removed, I might be able to go up to 4 times as fast, or double the world record pace!
14 posted on 10/11/2003 10:00:17 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (Praying for the Kingdom of God.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
"Yes, you are correct about how this works, but it should not fade away, as long as the structure of the nano hair remains intact."

No, it will work as long as the air bubbles remain trapped by the "nano-hairs". Eventually those air bubbles will bleed away (if by simply by slowly dissolving into the surrounding liquid).

"This technique plays off the molecular surface tension of the water--the molecular attraction between each water molecule. This force is such that the water molecules cannot bend around the hair tips to get into the spaces (bubbles) between the hairs."

Even Teflon surfaces eventually "wet out". It takes many hours of contact with the liquid for that to happen, but happen it does. Add to that the fact that there are lots of natural surfactants out there in the "real world" to accelerate that wetting-out process.

"This is the same technique used by water striders as they walk on water--their feet have little hairs on them that prevent them from sinking past the water surface tension."

The difference is in "time of contact". Your water strider's feet are only in contact with the water for a few seconds or minutes, while a submarine hull or pipeline coating will be have contact times of YEARS to wet out.

The "nano-hair" structure is basically the same as a porous material "turned inside out". Porous Teflon (aka Gore-Tex) WILL wet out and pass liquid water eventually, but the time it takes is on the order of days of contact. The reason Gore-Tex "works" is that the garment is taken off and has time to re-dry between exposures.

15 posted on 10/12/2003 3:59:48 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: blam
Forget subs, if you put this on plates and pans, every person who washes dishes will build a shrine to you.
16 posted on 10/12/2003 4:12:25 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: blam
This stuff would make standing topside watches a real adventure!
17 posted on 10/12/2003 4:25:43 AM PDT by j_tull
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To: j_tull
*LOL* I'll have to show this to my husband when he gets to a computer again. He's like one of their main 'go to' guys when they need someone for the sail M60 watch.
18 posted on 10/23/2003 4:13:31 PM PDT by Severa (Wife of Freeper Hostel, USN STS3(SS) currently on 6 month deployment)
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