[Pukin Dog]

This is not new, the Senator's name is Bob Graham.

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[MHGinTN]

A brilliant piece of writing, dirtboy! Yes, having Hatellary Rodhamster on the Senate intelligence committee is a recipe for democrat lies and dissembling, a sure way to feed the deceit machine that has become the democrat party.

[OpusatFR]

Hey, I'm not complaining. Everytime I'm able to use the ammo supplied by the left, I use it. Can't tell you how many people we have turned to the right using the lies of the left. All they have to do is see it in video or in print. The video of the Prez's SOTU and that particular sentence just destroys the "Bush lied" argument.

Why would I want the left to go all nicey now? They are doing a great job getting out the vote for the Republicans!

[dirtboy]

ping

[Mike Darancette]

BTTT

[Just another Joe]

Apparently your "demented brain" can see things that all the media can't.
Got a crystal ball under your chair?

[Hugin]

For weeks now, to the point of annoyance, we’ve witnessed Democratic politicians and liberal media talking heads stating that the threat from Saddam wasn’t imminent, as President Bush had claimed.

Except Bush never said that. In fact he said the opposite, that if we waited until the threat was imminent it would be too late. The whole point was to act before the threat became imminent.

[1rudeboy]

I remember a Maureen Dowd column in the NYT that caused an uncharacteristic brouhaha because she lifted GWB's words from the State of the Union speech out-of-context. (Her offense was particulary egregious, even by shill standards--she literally dropped a clause from a sentence in order to change its meaning). I remember thinking at the time that this could have been an inadvertant error on her part, and something that could conceivably occur when a columnist, through laziness or familiarity of the source, simply regurgitates another's opinion (talking-point, press-release, whatever) without thinking. A "slip," if you will.

My recollection is that her column concerned the "imminence"-question. If someone finds and more closely examines it, then it could provide some circumstantial evidence about the existence of a "memo" being circulated on this question.

[cwb]

According to Kay, he has only searched 10 out of the 130 reported depots. Yet within the 10 he has searched we already know that Saddam was in violation of 1441. What amazes me is how 1441 has been totally ignored by the media when reporting about WMDs and Saddams clear violations. The media has deliberately mislead the American people on what has already been found and how that relates to the actions taken against Saddam. Do these peole honestly believe that had we left Saddam alone that he would've went upon his merry-way promising not to engage in WMD research? He was in violation all along, with his extended-range missiles, hidden centrifuges and bio-labs. And the fact that the media is trying to convince people to the contrary is contemptuous.

Krauthammer from the Kay Report:

"Kay's list is chilling. It includes a secret network of labs and safe houses within the Mukhabarat, the Iraqi intelligence service; bioorganisms kept in scientists' homes, including a vial of live botulinum; and my favorite, ``new research on BW-applicable agents, Brucella and Congo Crimean Hemorrhagic Fever, and continuing work on ricin and aflatoxin´´ -- all ``not declared to the U.N."

[Samwise]

Bingo!

[aruanan]

The Kay Report found the framework of an extensive chemical and biological weapons program, but no weapons themselves. Above and beyond the possibility that the finished weapons themselves are either still hidden or were shipped to another country such as Syria, the existence of this kind of program was both a vindication of the decision to invade and of Bush’s postulation that we should not wait until the threat is imminent.

The Democrats' view of WMD's consisting merely of stockpiled finished product rather than the means to produce it and the will to use it is strangely similar to the belief of the poor lottery-playing dopes on welfare who believe that wealth consists possessing a big pile of loot and who have scarcely a thought about how it is to be produced or maintained or even that such a thing is possible, outside of really, really good luck (their own lotto playing) or criminal means (the rich).

WMD don't kill people. People like Saddam and Stalin and Pol Pot and Hitler and Osama bin Ladin kill people using whatever is at hand. Such people who have already demonstrated a willingness to produce and to use WMD as a means of inflicting their will on otherwise unwilling people have already demonstrated the minimum necessary behavior for folks like the U.S. to move in and de-fang them before they can do any more damage.

[Cobra64]

...the Dems basically are attempting to make the just-in-time manufacturing approach from Saddam irrelevant to the case against him...

the dems are too flippin stooopid to understand 'just-in-time' manufacturing process.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

We have discovered dozens of WMD-related program activities and significant amounts of equipment that Iraq concealed from the United Nations during the inspections that began in late 2002. The discovery of these deliberate concealment efforts have come about both through the admissions of Iraqi scientists and officials concerning information they deliberately withheld and through physical evidence of equipment and activities that ISG has discovered that should have been declared to the UN.

[...]

A clandestine network of laboratories and safehouses within the Iraqi Intelligence Service that contained equipment subject to UN monitoring and suitable for continuing CBW research.

* A prison laboratory complex, possibly used in human testing of BW agents, that Iraqi officials working to prepare for UN inspections were explicitly ordered not to declare to the UN.

* Reference strains of biological organisms concealed in a scientist's home, one of which can be used to produce biological weapons.

* New research on BW-applicable agents, Brucella and Congo Crimean Hemorrhagic Fever (CCHF), and continuing work on ricin and aflatoxin were not declared to the UN.

* Documents and equipment, hidden in scientists' homes, that would have been useful in resuming uranium enrichment by centrifuge and electromagnetic isotope separation (EMIS).

* A line of UAVs not fully declared at an undeclared production facility and an admission that they had tested one of their declared UAVs out to a range of 500 km, 350 km beyond the permissible limit.

* Continuing covert capability to manufacture fuel propellant useful only for prohibited SCUD variant missiles, a capability that was maintained at least until the end of 2001 and that cooperating Iraqi scientists have said they were told to conceal from the UN.

* Plans and advanced design work for new long-range missiles with ranges up to at least 1000 km - well beyond the 150 km range limit imposed by the UN. Missiles of a 1000 km range would have allowed Iraq to threaten targets through out the Middle East, including Ankara, Cairo, and Abu Dhabi.

* Clandestine attempts between late-1999 and 2002 to obtain from North Korea technology related to 1,300 km range ballistic missiles --probably the No Dong -- 300 km range anti-ship cruise missiles, and other prohibited military equipment.

[Vigilantcitizen]

Good job.

[carton253]

Excellent, but then again, I don't expect anything less from you.

[arasina]

From The Miami Herald

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Posted on Wed, Jun. 18, 2003

Graham: Bush deceived the public over threat in Iraq
BY FRANK DAVIES
fdavies@herald.com

WASHINGTON - Sen. Bob Graham Tuesday appealed to centrist Democrats with a low-key call for fiscal responsibility and a hard-edged critique of President Bush that included an incendiary word: impeachment.

Graham, a Florida Democrat running for president, said he recently had seen ''Impeach George Bush'' buttons on the campaign trail.

He was asked in New Hampshire if Congress would impeach the president ''if in fact it was found there was manipulation of intelligence in order to create public support for the war'' in Iraq.

''My answer was no, but the American people will have an opportunity to collapse both steps -- impeachment and removal from office -- on the first Tuesday of November 2004,'' Graham told a couple hundred members of the New Democrat Network meeting in Washington.

Graham, former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, did not see an impeachable offense in the buildup to war, but accused the administration of ''deception and deceit'' in its foreign and domestic policies. ''We were sold on war with Iraq because of an imminent threat to the United States of weapons of mass destruction,'' he said. 'Now we can't find `Osama Bin Forgotten' or Saddam Hussein or those weapons.''

[arasina]

From The Iowa Register (Excerpted)

Candidate Dean's Iraq stance targets rivals

But the Democratic candidates aren't that far apart on the Iraq issue, a professor says.

THOMAS BEAUMONT
Register Staff Writer
03/02/2003

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Dean has always supported a unilateral U.S. attack on Iraq if the nation posed an imminent threat to the United States or its allies. As early as October, Dean told reporters in Des Moines, "It's conceivable we would have to act unilaterally, but that should not be our first option."

"The reason I would have voted against the resolution is they gave the president authority to attack Iraq without making the case that there's an imminent threat," Dean said last week. "A vote is a vote. I disagree with their vote. I think that's a pretty significant difference."

Iowa Register Article

Looks to me like the Dems decided Dean had come up with a winning turn of phrase.

[CyberAnt]

Actually .. last week Brit Hume took on the "imminent threat" issue. Not that he had much choice .. I had been hounding FOX for several weeks about it .. sending messge after message complaining that this statement was not only distorting what the President said, they were making it a blatant lie .. and I felt FOX was doing nothing to stop it. I told FOX that FreeSpeech is a 2-way street. It's not just allowing the democrats to rant on and on, and distort everything. FreeSpeech was about CHALLENGING what the democrats said .. especially when FOX KNEW it was incorrect.

Finally .. success. Brit took on the challenge and actually explained what the President said .. and of course when Brit did that .. it made it obvious the democrats had totally distorted Bush's words.

A day or so later, there was Daschle on the Senate floor saying, "well .. maybe the President didn't say 'imminent threat' .. but .. blah blah blah blah."

We must never give up trying to make the democrats accountable for their words.

[PigRigger]

"By shifting the debate to a position where the threat from Saddam was stated by Bush as imminent, the Dems basically are attempting to make the just-in-time manufacturing approach from Saddam irrelevant to the case against him....."

Or re-write history IMHO.

Nice job.