Why We Went to War

The Weekly Standard ^ | 10/20/03 | Robert Kagan & William Kristol

[Eagle9]

Thanks for the ping, Dixie. That's an excellent article, with which I agree.

[maica]

Excellent, but it is an error in the War to Control the Language ...


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Tell me more about "The War to Control the Language."
Is it your phrase, a book, a website, or just the concept.

I believe that today's high school and university students are ripe for mind expansion using the approach that they are being subjected to 'language control.'

[PhilDragoo]

8500 liters of anthrax.

A spoon of that shut down the Senate (bad how?) and the Post Office (expensive).

A liter is 1.056 qt. and a gallon is 231 cubic inches.

A cubic foot is 1728 cubic inches so feeding this into the UNIVAC:

All Saddam's anthrax would fit in a room (storage locker, dumpster, shipping container, semi truck):

of 338.9375 cubic feet or approximately 6' X 7' X 8'.

Just in: High-level government moles have been surveilled meeting with terrorists:

Beware the next domestic terror attack as part of the Clintonista coup attempt.

She Who Must Be Oyvayed's shelf-life demands nothing less.

[ohioWfan]

Belated thanks for the article, and the pings.....

More stubborn facts for the left to ignore in their quest to diminish the accomplishments and reputation of our honorable Commander in Chief......

Bookmarked for reference.

[ohioWfan]

The blood of America's sons and daughters was shed to protect Americans.......even you...... and to fight for freedom for Iraqis and the world.

You belittle and diminish every member of our military with your mindless hostility toward their mission........and them....... and insult every rational mind who can see the glaring truth which you so blatantly avoid.

[firewalk]

Thanks for the ping

[ALOHA RONNIE]

...Question raised today with an Expert on these ANTHRAX Attacks on the Judicial Watch Report Talk Radio Show:


"With it now that being understood that these ANTHRAX Attacks on America were not domestic attacks...

...WHY did HILLARY immediately after these ANTHRAX Attacks say tell the Media that they were..?"

http://www.JudicialWatch.org

[arete]

Were you against destroying Hitler since he was in Europe, not here?

You compare Saddam's Iraq with Hitler's Germany. Oh please. You guys are getting way too funny.

Richard W.

[JulieRNR21]

Thanks for alerting me to this fine essay.....BUMP

[ohioWfan]

Why don't you answer the question, arete?

I'd like to know if you opposed stopping Hitler because he was so far away. Seriously.

[fella]

But ...... But ........ Ted Kennedy, Hitlery and the rest of the Dims have heard none of this or so they say and the mainsteam media agrees with them. That is at least until after November of 2004.

[arete]

You belittle and diminish every member of our military with your mindless hostility toward their mission........and them....... and insult every rational mind who can see the glaring truth which you so blatantly avoid.

The truth of the matter as it stands so far and given the lack of solid evidence of WMD and any AQ link to Saddam, is that GW has sent American sons and daughters to be killed needlessly because he is using the war to flag wave himself to re-election. You may support the sociopathic quest for power by a politician on the backs of dead Americans, but I don't.

Richard W.

[arete]

Why don't you answer the question, arete?

Your desperation to tie Hitler and Saddam into the same package is very telling. It is a silly and empty argument more approrpriate for junior high school debate.

Richard W.

[ohioWfan]

It is not 'needless' to die for the protection of America's citizens, and for the safety of the Middle East, and the entire world.

It is not 'needless' to serve this country in its time of great need.

In your shallow attempts to degrade our Commander in Chief, you have belittled the service and sacrifice of our men and women in uniform.

You are a disgrace.

[ohioWfan]

I am in no way, 'desperate' to make a connection between Hitler and Saddam.

You said that it was stupid to defeat a 'two bit dictator a third of the way around the world,' or something to that effect.

And you would lose a Jr. High debate, because you continue to avoid the question. Was it wrong to defeat the two bit dictator, Adolf Hitler?

Answer the question, and stop acting like a Jr. High wiseguy......Yes, or No?

[arete]

It is not 'needless' to serve this country in its time of great need.

What great need? The need to get GW re-elected? Saddam was no threat and no proof that he was can be found. GW was have been better off pushing the rocks around in Afghanistan for a couple of more years and fewer Americans would be dead. Now his little re-election adventure into Iraq has proved to be a real motivator for AQ and the Iraqi resistence movement is gaining strength. If anything, Americans are less safe.

Richard W.

[ohioWfan]

You are really bitter, aren't you?

You voting for Howard Dean so the country is more to your liking in 2005? LOL! (I think he and Terry McCauliffe both agree with you about this whole subject).

Oh.....and, can we all expect a big apology that you were a total jerk about this when the actual WMD are found, and not just all the ingredients, and the hiding places, and the plans??

[arete]

You are blinded by political bias. I don't have that problem.

Richard W.

[visualops]

"arete"
Do you think Al-Qaeda is the only terrorist group in world? Do you actually think the WOT is only about Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda?
"It is a known fact that Saddam Hussein provides financial and material support to terrorist organizations, such as Hamas, and the PIJ, both of whom are groups which the US is taking action against as part of the “War on Terror”. Saddam is also known to be providing refuge for terrorists wanted by America, Israel and other allies, such as Abu Abbas, who was behind the hijacking of the Achille Lauro and the murder of American Leon Klinghofer in 1985. "
"By removing Saddam from power, terrorist organizations will be deprived of yet another state which previously supported them, and as such, will have one less place to seek refuge, and will suffer from a lack of financial and
material support."
"This will deal a serious blow to the terrorists, weakening the threat they pose to the US and her allies. By ousting Saddam and continuing in the successes we have had against Al-Qaeda, we will be sending the terrorists and their ideology into, as President Bush so aptly put it, “history’s unmarked grave of discarded lies”. "
http://people.brandeis.edu/~united/articles/wotsuccess.htm

February 18, 2003, 9:00 a.m.
Hand in Glove
Iraq and al Qaeda.
By Mansoor Ijaz
"The real danger Americans face today is not from Iraq's existing biochemical-weapons cache, but from Saddam's transfer of recipe books and formulas to al Qaeda, and access to the scientists who teach from them, for developing weapons of mass murder on site at its terrorist hideouts around the world. And not just now, but for decades to come. "
"...One such group, identified in Secretary of State Colin Powell's compelling presentation to the U.N. Security Council on Feb. 5, characterizes the new al Qaeda overlay model with alarming clarity. Ansar al-Islam, a northern Iraqi terrorist operation run by Kurdish Muslim extremists — many of whom trained at Osama bin Laden's terror camps in Afghanistan — is battling secular Kurds opposed to Saddam's rule in northern Iraq.

According to confessions obtained from al Qaeda subordinates arrested in the region in recent months, Ansar operates with the military and financial resources of Saddam's intelligence directorate, the Mukhabarat. The terror group, resident geographically in an ungovernable region along the Iran-Iraq border, is now capable of becoming an al Qaeda pop-up biochemical-weapons lab for the production and distribution of poisons whose recipes and formulas are provided by its state sponsors. "
"How much more data is needed to demonstrate al Qaeda's growing hand-in-glove relationship with terrorism's modern-day godfather. The sooner we dispel ourselves of the notion that forensic evidence is the only way to define terror links between states that sponsor terrorism and well-financed, ideologically driven terrorist networks, the sooner we will be able to effectively defend ourselves against their tireless efforts to destroy us. "
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-ijaz021803.asp

"IRAQ: From Fear to Freedom
The Lessons of Halabja: An Ominous Warning"
http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/iraq/warning.htm

And it goes on and on.
No good would have come from not acting against Saddam, and a much much greater good has come from our sacrifices in ousting Saddam. Yes, we are paying a high price in American and Allied lives for the war. But the price to be paid for not fighting, would be much, much higher.
Do try to look beyond the end of your nose.

[ohioWfan]

ROFLOL!! One of the reasons I enjoy FR is that I get to observe the distorted logic of blind and mindless ideologues.

btw, thanks for the Saturday evening entertainment. You're as irrational as they come around here, and I find you quite amusing. (And quite a coward, as well......you never did answer my question...... because you were afraid to??)

If you weren't so horribly disrespectful of our brave and strong military, I'd almost admire your bullheaded consistency. But, I don't, because that side of your argument is disgraceful, and decidedly unAmerican.

I'll be waiting for your apology......