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Why We Went to War
The Weekly Standard ^
| 10/20/03
| Robert Kagan & William Kristol
Posted on 10/10/2003 7:28:06 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: arete
So I ask tough questions and voice my opinions.
Gee, O'Reilly, you bless us with your presence.
To: Howlin
Thanks for the ping. I read that article this morning and sent it to some friends.
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posted on
10/11/2003 10:41:02 AM PDT
by
Peach
(The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
To: JulieRNR21
Thanks, Julie. Stubborn facts are ignored by the left.
If you have a chance, read this essay from a Sgt. who makes the case for America's being in Iraq.
Soldier heroes who risk their lives to liberate stranger/victims from serious evildoers know why they fight. Pundits and pols should ask them more often.
Protests From Those Who Don't Know Ring Hollow ~ Austin American Statesman | 10/9/03 | Sgt N.J. Todd
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posted on
10/11/2003 11:03:28 AM PDT
by
Ragtime Cowgirl
("1/10th of 1% out of 1700 patrols a day see any conflict." SOD Rumsfeld re US troops in Iraq, 10/10)
To: ALOHA RONNIE; Luis Gonzalez
This is all happening before our very eyes and I am so very proud of my Commander-in-Chief in Time of War. Yes, when I heard this yesterday, tears came to my eyes:
PRESIDENT BUSH: So today we are confident that no matter what the dictator intends or plans, Cuba sera pronto libre. De nuevo, Cuba libre. Thank you all.
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posted on
10/11/2003 11:06:09 AM PDT
by
risk
To: visualops
This was excellent! Obviously the information contained here is such that the liberal media will never disclose it to the American public and of course the majority of Americans aren't even interested other than how it might affect their time in front of the tv.
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posted on
10/11/2003 11:38:25 AM PDT
by
dixie sass
(GOD bless America)
To: Howlin
Thanks for the ping!
46
posted on
10/11/2003 11:45:53 AM PDT
by
dixie sass
(GOD bless America)
To: Spruce
Good post!
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posted on
10/11/2003 11:49:17 AM PDT
by
MEG33
To: arete
So instead of having any real critical discussion of important issuesWhich is only possible when critics stop distorting the ground truth, such as saying that Kay's report shows no justification of the claims made prior to the war or that Bush claimed that the threat from Saddam was imminent. It's a two-way street.
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posted on
10/11/2003 11:54:55 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
(Cure Arnold of groping - throw him into a dark closet with Janet Reno and shut the door.)
To: Japedo; IronJack; SC Swamp Fox; Hillarys Gate Cult; Bob J; Lazamataz; Eagle9; freedox
Excellent article.
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posted on
10/11/2003 11:58:34 AM PDT
by
dixie sass
(GOD bless America)
To: Lael
I know how cynical and mendacious Bill Clinton is and was...yet I don't believe he lacked specific target info. After all, he hit the Afgan al Qaeda training camps, and that Asprin factory in Khartom. It was a rush job. That's what happens when the military planning cycle is trumped by the news cycle.
However, on the larger picture of Saddam and WMDs, just about everyone believed he had them and he never gave us a single reason to trust him - and the Kay report justifies that cynicism. The Dems months ago laid the groundwork for discounting the Kay report, as if they knew something like it would be coming out (and some probably used leaked preliminary intel to structure this approach). Remember that about six weeks ago Dems all over the place starting saying that Bush claimed the threat from Saddam was imminent - when Bush said nothing of the sort, and instead had asked if we should wait until the threat was imminent? If Saddam had a just-in-time approach for chemical and biological weapons, the threat would not be imminent - it would take him a few months to create agents - so it was necessary for the Dems to distort Bush's position. The just-in-time WMD approach is much more in line with the type of threat that Bush was talking about all along.
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posted on
10/11/2003 12:00:33 PM PDT
by
dirtboy
(Cure Arnold of groping - throw him into a dark closet with Janet Reno and shut the door.)
To: dirtboy
Until people start using their heads and stop listening to other people's interpretations of the news - aw phooey - well, we'll just have the same old, same old...
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posted on
10/11/2003 12:00:48 PM PDT
by
dixie sass
(GOD bless America)
To: dirtboy
Which is only possible when critics stop distorting the ground truth, such as saying that Kay's report shows no justification of the claims made prior to the war or that Bush claimed that the threat from Saddam was imminent. It's a two-way street.Nothing is being distorted by the critics. Kay's report was paper opinion and speculation. The critics want to see actual proof -- solid physical evidence which somehow cannot be produced. What does that tell you? Maybe Kay's report is based on British intelligence. LOL
Richard W.
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posted on
10/11/2003 12:07:42 PM PDT
by
arete
(Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
To: arete
Re:
So I ask tough questions and voice my opinions. Interesting, but freedom of speech is not a safe harbor for fabrication.
53
posted on
10/11/2003 12:11:25 PM PDT
by
ChadGore
(Kakkate Koi!)
To: arete
Re: The responsibility sits on the heads . . False. They are you're assertions, the onus is upon you, my good friend.
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posted on
10/11/2003 12:12:54 PM PDT
by
ChadGore
(Kakkate Koi!)
To: arete
Nothing is being distorted by the critics. Maybe in your little world. Not in the real world that the rest of us live in.
Kay's report was paper opinion and speculation.
Hardly. The equipment, programs and documentation are all in place.
The critics want to see actual proof
Of what? That Saddam had WMDs? He had a program in place to manufacture them on a very short notice. Which means he could have been a threat within a year or so. Once again, just about everyone in the world believed Saddam had the weapons, and Saddam gave no reason for them to believe otherwise. And the Kay Report shows that skepticism to be justified.
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posted on
10/11/2003 12:17:31 PM PDT
by
dirtboy
(Cure Arnold of groping - throw him into a dark closet with Janet Reno and shut the door.)
To: arete
Re:
What does that tell you? That some of us take a more enlightened world view on Iraq instead of burying our heads in the sand and becoming a one issue person. The WMDs have been seperated from the hands of the tyranical, didpotic, dictitorial socialist regime that is the declared enemy of my nation, these United States.
THANK YOU GWB :)
The larger question is why you feel compelled to shill for a, now deposed, socialist dictator ? Other than yourself, who other allies did Saddams Iraq have?
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posted on
10/11/2003 12:17:49 PM PDT
by
ChadGore
(Kakkate Koi!)
To: ChadGore
you're your
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posted on
10/11/2003 12:19:13 PM PDT
by
ChadGore
(Kakkate Koi!)
To: ChadGore
Your idol, GW, mislead the American people and has the blood of American sons and daughters on his hands. Saddam was no threat to us. You can yell that evil-doer nonsense until your blue in the face. I'll worry about the enemy of the constitution and freedoms of the citizens coming from Washington, not some two bit dictator half a world away.
Richard W.
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posted on
10/11/2003 12:55:34 PM PDT
by
arete
(Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
To: arete
Your idol, GW, mislead the American people and has the blood of American sons and daughters on his hands. So what would you have done after 9/11 that wouldn't have involved American troops putting themselves in harm's way?
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posted on
10/11/2003 1:53:13 PM PDT
by
risk
To: arete
That "half a world away" dictator is evil incarnate. It is a good thing to eradicate such evil for humanity's sake and for our own protection. Were you against destroying Hitler since he was in Europe, not here?
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