Rush Limbaugh: Open Line Friday [Confirms Some Aspects of Drug Story, Checking In To Rehab]

[I Am Not A Mod]

A thread for those listening to today's show.

[Stew Padasso]

Oxycontin in the news:

http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=oxycontin+possession

[longtermmemmory]

an adict is NOT an adict. There are differences. A person who is an adict as a result of physical pain is treated differently than a person who is only psychologically adicted.

The chances of success for an addict from physical pain like rush's back and neck situation are far more promissing than someone who is using drugs for recreation.

[txrangerette]

"Noelle Bush comes to mind"(busted
for mere possession)

Noelle pretended over the phone to
be a doctor and called in a fake
prescription for herself. The cops
were alerted by the pharmacy & got
her when she came to pick it up.

While in rehab, she had pills in
her shoe & was caught. As far as
I know, simple possession as a
first-time offender wasn't behind
her legal trouble.

?????

[melodie]

LOL!!

[truth_seeker]

"Fellow dopers? So someone who gets addicted because he's taking pills for pain is equivalent to someone who smokes dope for fun? I don't think so."

Are you trying to make a moral distinction; such that there is moral and immoral addiction, to addictive, mind altering substances?

Follow this example: A few 15 year old boys get some beer, and each drinks a couple. Over the following years, each of them drinks with varying frequencies and patterns.

One drinks little to nothing, for it simply makes him naseous. The slight euphoria isn't worth the physical discomfort, to him.

Most of the others drink occasionally, and grow to adulthood, without alcohol becoming the central item in their lives.

But one boy is drawn to alcohol, from that first time. He drinks as much and as often, as he can. By age 18 it has disrupted his life. By age 21 it has him in trouble with the law.

Science has been searching for the "something" that separates the alcoholic boy, from the rest.

You want it to be some moral distinction?

Drugs are far more addictive, than alcohol.

[P.O.E.]

Just dropping in to add my prayers for Rush's recovery.

[zoyd]

Are you really going to go down this road? Are you honestly going to try and convince people that Rush was a libertarian, anti-WOD commentator? Get real.

I can't cite the exact moment he's said it, but Larry Elder just quoted him saying just that.

(laughing) Go ahead. Tell me that Rush was in favor of ending the WOD. Tell me that Rush doesn't want crack addicts locked up. Tell me that Rush wants crystal meth addicts to be free to do their thing. This should be good...

Doncha think that if Rush had expressed a desire to end the WOD, that it MIGHT have generated a LITTLE ripple of interest from the millions of Drug Warriors that listen to his show?

I think it's awfully safe to say that Rush was in favor of the WOD, in favor of drug laws.

[Qwinn]

*grin* I take it we are both amused at the same thing... how some people are having a little difficulty having their preconceptions about their heroes being challenged...

;)

Qwinn

[Tripoli]

oops!

[adx]

Take a peek:

Chapter 893.13 Prohibited acts; penalties.-- of Florida Statutes.

[LittleJoe]

Decent, productive people could -- would, actually -- be encouraged to buy these drugs and keep buying them to the benefit of the seller/manufacturor

They already are being encouraged. Pain management is the fastest growing industry in America.

None of the new marketed drugs are more effective than heroin and most of them are more addictive than heroin.

That is why doctors in the UK have returned to using heroin instead of the more addictive American wonder drugs.

Our problem is not marijuana or coke. It is prescribed medications that the pharmaceutical industry profits from.

We are shown statistics that lead us to believe that we have millions of drug abusers. If you subtract the addicts of prescribed drugs, you don't have enough left to support a War On Drugs.

It certainly looks like the pharmaceutical industry is trying to hook as many as it can, knowing that these people will have to go to illegal drugs when they are cut off.

This not only makes money for the drug companies, it supports the War On Drugs.

I may be wrong, but I doubt it.

[Dane]

Uh Qwinnie, if you want me to answer your posts, you should actually try to "ping" me, like you did not in your reply #992.

BTW, it is interesting that during the Clinton administartion that the majority of the pro-marijuana initiatives were passed(you know a president of the United States saying that he didn't "inhale" and all that schtick), but in the first off year election in the GW Bush administration(2002) the three major pro-drug state intitiatives(AZ, OH, and NV), financed BTW, by Hillary friend George Soros, all went down to resounding defeats.

Oh yeah, I will wait for your kicking Rush while he is down reply and reveling in it like your Libertarian brethren are.

[Orangedog]

Nov3: Dane cut your losses. As for as addiction goes Rush is no better than any street drug addict. He is a junkie period.

Dane: Sorry, but your DU spin goes right over my head. Rush could have denied everything like the Clintons, had a Pellicano private dick go after Wilma Cline and kill her cat and declared his innocence, but he faced up to his problem and admitted them to millions of people, and for that he should be given some support and more importantly our prayers.

Sounds like you understand as much about addiction and recovery about as well as some of the others here...that is, not at all. A drug addict is a drug addict is a drug addict. Cocaine, alcohol, crack, oxy's...they are ALL the same. Try asking someone who has been through treatment and is in recovery.

[GeronL]

Are you trying to make a moral distinction;

yes. Murder and self defense are not the same thing

[zoyd]

yes, but the illegality has not been determined. A story in the ENQUIRER is not evidence

Keep that head in the sand. Why hasn't Rush sued the National Enquirer already? I haven't heard word one from him about the inaccuracies in the story. I haven't heard any threats about legal action from Rush towards the NE.

All I've heard is Rush admit that he's going into rehab. Wouldn't it be a BIZARRE coincidence if his housekeeper's story was COMPLETE FICTION, but that Rush was just coincidentally addicted to the same drugs she claimed to have scored for him? Yes, it would certainly be quite the bizarre coincidence.

[Dave W]

Monty,

Rush owes you nothing. I am somwhat flabbergasted that you said Rush has let you down. I repeat....Rush owes you nothing...not a thing.

In fact, your comments are focused on only you..."Rush has let ME down." Instead of being concerned for Rush, you show concern about YOU instead."

Monty, YOU have let me down.

[longtermmemmory]

Noelle Bush was under the supervision of FL's drug court. She is an example of what happens when they catch you red handed.

The palm beach prosecutor had nothing or rush would have been in the same type of drug court.

There is no criminal case. Even if there was, the net result would be charges dismissed. Same as anyone else.

The enquirer still has problems with their story. you can't accuse people of criminal conduct without proof beyond a cigar box and tapes that you refuse to make public.

[SMGFan]

ABC & NBC led their nightly news with Rush.

[GeronL]

That is why doctors in the UK have returned to using heroin instead of the more addictive American wonder drugs

That and its cheaper for the always underfunded NHS

[dhfnc]

A story in the ENQUIRER is not evidence

AMEN!