Posted on 10/10/2003 1:48:17 AM PDT by kattracks
The fall afternoon started simply enough: A handful of gay teens from Harvey Milk High School lounged around a Lexus parked by a Starbucks in Greenwich Village on Tuesday.Then things got violent.
One of the teens fiddled with the Lexus' sideview mirror, enraging the driver. Words, some of them possibly homophobic, were exchanged. A bottle was thrown at the luxury car.
The Lexus driver came at the teens with a screwdriver.
When all was said and done, three Harvey Milk students as well as the driver of the Lexus, Vernon Jones, 23, were arrested - and Jones had been jabbed in the back with his own screwdriver, police said.
"This guy in a car started saying things. He was, like, 'Oh, look at the gay people, saying he wanted to murder us and everything. Then a few kids started saying, 'What's your problem?'" Leomi M., 16, a transgender Harvey Milk student who saw the fracas across the street from the school, said yesterday.
"The guy came out of the car, pulled a screwdriver out of his pocket and we ran," said Leomi, who wore a wig, makeup and women's clothing.
As some teenagers scattered, Jones allegedly grabbed one 17-year-old student, Erica Simon, and "mushed her" in the face, said another witness.
"He was starting to mush a girl, and 15 kids ran back to help her. Erica was roughed up," said another student witness, Randy M., 19. "It was crazy. He was saying, 'Y'all f------ homos are going to hell. Y'all should have died when you were first born.'"
Simon, along with four other students, is accused of "kicking, punching, and beating" Jones with a broken umbrella, fists, and feet, police said. They also wrestled his screwdriver away and slammed it into his back.
Jones, of Brooklyn, suffered a puncture wound and was brought to St. Vincent's Medical Center, where he was treated and charged with menacing.
Simon, along with Kareem Macedon, 16, and Penn Lorenzo, 16 - all from Brooklyn - were charged with gang assault and menacing. Two other teens involved in the attack were being sought by cops yesterday, police said.
Police are not investigating the incident as a hate crime.
"He gets out with a screwdriver, and they attack him. This was not motivated by him seeking to harass them about being gay," said a police official. "The Harvey Milk students were the aggressors."
But the Manhattan district attorney's office said Jones could face additional charges.
"We are absolutely investigating whether it is a hate crime," said Barbara Thompson, a district attorney spokeswoman.
The four were slated to be arraigned at Manhattan Criminal Court last night.
Bill to protect students
Harvey Milk Principal William Salzman referred all calls to the Department of Education, which said the incident was under investigation.
The arrests came the same week that the City Council Education Committee held hearings on a bill designed in part to protect gay and lesbian students from taunts and harassment. School Safety Chief Ben Tucker said there have been no similiar incidents at the school since it opened in September - with dozens of protesters outside.
"I think everyone was on edge about it when the school opened .... The school is very visible, so it's not unreasonable to assume that the school could be a target, or that the students could be targets," Tucker said. "That's the reason the school exists in the first place - to give the students some comfort."
With Bill Farrell and Celeste Katz
Originally published on October 10, 2003
Yes, it was, but apparently you missed it. Let me help.
Two males cannot procreate. Neither can two females.
What Kevlar was pointing out is that, if homosexuality is genetic, then it would have been 'selected out' of the gene pool naturally eons ago.
But we all know that it hasn't been. So those who claim to have been 'born that way' are either deluded or admitting to having some sort of defect that is not genetically based. Care to speculate which?
Can someone please provide a definition of the verb Mush as in to mush in the face?
I doubt anyone is making that claim. But in this particular story, it is quite possible that the homo kids started the trouble. Since the two posted stories seem to conflict, it's hard to say.
T->Of course we should take your word on this and not listen to those silly medical associations who say it isn't. What do they know.
Of course those 'medical' decisions have been thoroughly proven to have been political decision in the first place. The practice of homosexual behavior is still a symptom of an underlying mental disease
C->Anything that would cause an organism to voluntarily filter itself out of the gene pool can be recognized as such.
t->I wasn't aware that homosexuality had been "filtered out" of existence. That doesn't appear to be the case.
Your comprehension seems a bit off today TD. The organism being filtered out is the person committing the homosexual behavior, not the behavior.
Also, since 'homosexuality' is a disease caused by trauma, whenever the trauma exists it is likely that the disease will continue to exist.
The arrests came the same week that the City Council Education Committee held hearings on a bill designed in part to protect gay and lesbian students from taunts and harassment....Sounds like we need to protect society from gay and lesbian students. I read a book once that mentioned roving bands of sodomites attacking town people. If my recollection serves me right, bad things ensued a short time later....Simon, along with four other students, is accused of "kicking, punching, and beating" Jones with a broken umbrella, fists, and feet, police said. They also wrestled his screwdriver away and slammed it into his back. ...
Well, of course homosexuality hasn't been filtered out of existence. Mules, by and large sterile animals, still exist, but they don't procreate. Likewise, homosexuals enjoy an existence as mules; they do their thing, but pass on nothing biological. Similarly, like mules, these folk are an aberration.
"Medical" science, as a raison d' etare, is kinda funny, too. Prior to 1971, the APA considered homosexuality a neurosis on par with transvestitism and Turet's syndrome (sarcasm); then the association "grew." Miraculously, with a governing board of homosexuals, the APA discovered that homosexuals were mainstream folk after all. Viola! Stroke of the pen, law of the land.
Only if they don't consider banging their brothers a violation of celibacy...
Normally when folks of alternate lifestyles < /sarcasm> attack all you get to see is bad hairdos and drive-by slappings...
The A.P.A. decision was not made based on new scientific evidence, as gay-activist researcher Simon LeVay admitted,
Gay activism was clearly the force that propelled the APA to declassify homosexuality.Simon Levay is often trumpeted as someone who found a gay gene. Here's what Levay said of his own research:
It's important to stress what I didn't find. I did not prove that homosexuality is genetic, or find a genetic cause for being gay. I didn't show that gay men are born that way, the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work. Nor did I locate a gay center in the brain.That's a gay researcher admitting the truth about his own research.
The practice of homosexual behavior is still a symptom of an underlying mental disease.
And it all starts with their environment. The evidence states nobody is born homosexual.
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Orthodox Jew = -2 points
Gun owner = -3 points
White Christian woman = -3 points
White Christian male = -5 points
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A sixteen-year-old what ?
Or ,maybe the parents spent too long in the tanning booth and got their DNA mutated.
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