[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

And you thought Rioden talking about taxes and naming marxist Willie Brown to his staff was bad in the first couple days....

[EternalVigilance]

Who would have ever thunk it?

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

Well lookie what we have here.

A "Who saw this coming?" Ping.

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[byteback]

Sound like a good idea to me. We know they're in the fields already so let INS go after the real problems (ok wishful thinking on that last part).

[Consort]

Didn't anybody listen to his campaign speeches?

[dandelion]

Applying for a visa is not the same thing as getting citizenship. It's another way to document workers properly - and it gives law enforcement more leverage in expelling illegal aliens who don't have visas. The thinking is, if you don't have a criminal record, or if you have a job, you have a visa. If you don't have a visa, you must be unemployed or a criminal...

[dandelion]

Applying for a visa is not the same thing as getting citizenship. It's another way to document workers properly - and it gives law enforcement more leverage in expelling illegal aliens who don't have visas. The thinking is, if you don't have a criminal record, or if you have a job, you have a visa. If you don't have a visa, you must be unemployed or a criminal...

[Mears]

Is this what the people of California wanted?

[RichardW]

Sounds like some good ideas to me. I'd rather have some way to document these people than having them coming and going illegally. They are there because of the demand for their services.

[Saundra Duffy]

apply for visas especially if they don't have a criminal background

And just how would we know if they had a history of criminal behavior. Huh?

[MineralMan]

No suprise here. Arnold said this stuff before the election, too. He's pro-immigrant, illegal or not. If anyone is surprised at this, they weren't listening.

This is just the beginning. Arnold is going to sound more and more like a Democrat as the weeks go by.

Pro-life, pro-gun control, pro-gay, pro-immigration. And that's just the start. He wants more money for schools, more money for medical care, more money for this and that.

Democrat.

[Tempest]

The definition for paranoid right-wing crazies is becoming all to clear to me now.

[Reagan Man]

No surprise here.

On joinarnold.com, this is what Arnold has to say on immigration. Quote: "[l]et me be clear: I do not support an amnesty program". Arnold then goes onto to say: "Deportation is not an option. We need to find a way to legitimize these individuals and get them on a path toward legal residency status in the United States". Arnold also says: "Washington should pursue a responsible immigration policy that offers undocumented immigrants a path to permanent legal status".

That's called amnesty folks.

In addition, Arnold has mentioned nothing about cutting taxpayer funding for social welfare programs that are being utilized by both illegal aliens and societal deadbeats. Arnold wants the federal government to pick up more of the costs for California's illegal immigrants. Arnold has no intention of reducing social welfare benefits in California for anyone.

[gubamyster]

ping

[tophat9000]

I have made a commitment to myself to no comment on Arnold for 6 month in the open form....so around March ...will talk ........ Ohm....Ohm.....Ohm

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

The people who voted for Arnold got exactly what was advertised. He is a liberal. Live with it.

[Sabertooth]

I posted this on September 24th.

• Deportation is not an option. We need to find a way to legitimize these individuals and get them on a path toward legal residency status in the United States.
• Let me be clear: I do not support an amnesty program. The last time we tried that in the late 80s it didn't work, and there's little reason to think it would work now.

• I am encouraged by the approach laid out by Senator McCain to provide a clear path for legitimizing undocumented immigrants who currently live their lives in the shadows. McCain's bill S 1461 - The Border Security and Immigration Act of 2003
  • A new H-4A visa for immigrants seeking temporary employment with important protections to ensure that immigrant workers are not exploited and that Californians are not displaced by unscrupulous employers;

  • A new H-4B visa for undocumented immigrants who entered the country before August 2003, have held a job since that time, and do not have a criminal record.

  • The opportunity for holders of these new visas to gain legal permanent residency status.

• " Senator McCain's plan contains the key principles that should guide any proposal to solve the immigration impasse:

Schwarzenegger is acting from both sides of his mouth.

You can't support legalizing Illegal Aliens, and honestly say "I do not support an amnesty program."

Other quotes from Schwarzenegger...

"Proposition 187 has been resolved by the courts. It is time to move on. More than 2.3 million undocumented immigrants currently live in California. They cannot continue to live underground. I will work with federal officials to address this problem."
Schwarzenegger campaign website - joinarnold.com


Said Proposition 187, the 1994 measure that denied many services to illegal immigrants, was "history" because it has been largely voided by the courts. He supported the proposition at the time voters approved it. "Now we have to move forward with the whole thingand to look at it, what we're going to do with all the people that are undocumented immigrants here in this state. What should we do? Should we have them to stay here, which I think is the right way to do, but how do you then include them in our society, how do you make it official, how do you make it legal?" he said. He added he would try to team up with other states with large immigrant populations and lobby the federal government to address the issue.
Associated Press - August 27th, 2003

backpedaled
Schwarzenegger, who legally immigrated to this country from Austria in 1968, opposed issuing driver's licenses to undocumented immigrants. But he didn't rule out public services or amnesty for those who come into the country illegally.

He said he would work with other states to pressure the federal government, which controls immigration, to "come up with a solution once and for all." He also said allowing undocumented immigrants to stay in the United States is "the right thing to do."
Sacramento Bee – August 28th, 2003

Schwarzenegger criticized Davis for signing a bill granting driver's licenses to undocumented immigrants, saying, "We're leaving ourselves wide open to terrorism." And he repeated his support for a guest-worker visa program -- "then they can (get) driver's licenses hooked together with insurance."
Sacramento Bee - September 9th, 2003


Schwarzenegger said he opposed the bill because it would "bring danger to our state" because it doesn't require background checks of illegal immigrants.

He did, however, say he supported proposed federal legislation that would help those in the United States illegally become legal residents more quickly.
Sacramento Bee - September 17th, 2003

Since Arnold Schwarzenegger supports legalizing Illegal Aliens and then giving them drivers' licenses, how meaningful are his promises to support the overturning of SB60?

Why won't Schwarzenegger immediately support the referendum to overturn Illegal Alien drivers' licenses, in time to place the on the ballot for the March 2004 California Primary?

What do you suppose Karl Rove is thinking about such a referendum?

[dennisw]

If he follows through with this, and that's a big if, then Arnold will be the stalking horse for GWBush amnesties and guest worker programs. Test it first in California

Immigration enforcement is a disgrace now and will be a disgrace if a guest worker program is set up. Guest worker program will abused to a fare thee well and few will be punished. Same as it is now.

[novacation]

Another scumbag illegal lover. Why the f**k didn't people vote for McClintock? Bye bye whites. Bye bye California.Oh! Thnaks to all of those who supported the empty suit!

[Roscoe]

I thought that his apologists told us that Arnold opposed amnesty.