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Investigator Testifies at Bryant Hearing
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Posted on 10/09/2003 2:08:36 PM PDT by per loin

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Detective: Bryant's accuser protested during encounter

By Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press Writer
October 9, 2003

EAGLE - The woman who accused Kobe Bryant of rape told police a flirtatious encounter quickly turned ugly when he grabbed her by the neck, bent her over a chair and attacked her, repeatedly asking, "You're not going to tell anybody about this, right?"

The 19-year-old woman was raped after agreeing to go to Bryant's suite at the resort where she worked, Eagle County Sheriff's Detective Doug Winters testified Thursday at a preliminary hearing to determine whether Bryant will stand trial.

Winters described in graphic detail for a packed courtroom how, according to the woman, an exciting, chance meeting with the Los Angeles Lakers' superstar led to a nightmarish assault that left her shaken and in tears.

She said she told Bryant "no" at least twice and he ignored her, pulling her dress up and her underwear down and raping her from behind.

At one point, the woman told police, Bryant forced her to face him and say "no" when he asked if she was going to tell anyone. After the attack, Bryant made her kiss his penis, Winters said the woman told investigators.

Bryant, 25, has insisted the sex was consensual. He sat at the defense table staring straight at Winters for much of the hearing, hands folded in front of him. Bryant occasionally clenched his jaw, but showed little other reaction.

Though the testimony was graphic, the most explosive statement came from Bryant's own defense attorney when she suggested under cross examination that the woman's injuries would also be "consistent with a person who has had sex with three different men in three days."

That led an angry Judge Frederick Gannett to empty the courtroom and summon the lawyers to his chambers. Gannett was also upset earlier when defense attorney Pamela Mackey said the woman's name four times when asking questions.

She apologized, saying she would write herself a big note not to say it.

"Or I could get you a big muzzle," Gannett said.

The hearing - expected to last only an afternoon - was finally adjourned after more than six hours, an indication the trial could be long and laborious for both sides. Gannett said it would continue next Wednesday, and the district attorney's office said Bryant had to appear.

Winters, the only witness of the afternoon, recounted what the woman told him in an hourlong interview the day after she met Bryant at the resort. It all began with a tour of the hotel on June 30 that led to some flirting. She went back to Bryant's room and showed him a tattoo on her ankle, then turned down his request to join him in the hot tub, Winters said.

Her shift at the front desk was ending and she wanted to go home, he said, and "she was starting to feel a bit uncomfortable."

Winters said she stood up to leave and Bryant gave her a hug that led to some consensual kissing, Winters said.

But when she turned to go, Bryant grabbed her by the neck, pulled up her black dress and raped her against a chair, Winters said. She told investigators she said "no" at least twice, before bursting into tears as the five-minute attack went on.

Bryant wasn't holding her neck so tight she couldn't breathe, Winters said, but enough to control her movement.

"She was afraid that he was going to choke her," he said.

Afterward, Bryant told the woman to clean up, Winters said. She fixed her hair, wiped her face and left after again promising to remain silent.

She went back to the front desk to finish up her work and finally left the resort with an unidentified bellman, Winters said. She told him what happened and he urged her to report it, later following her home.

Winters testified that the woman's blood was found on the inside of Bryant's T-shirt, based on DNA tests. The woman told him she had bleeding from the attack, he said.

The prosecution also presented photographs showing vaginal injuries and one of a bruise on the woman's jaw, and a rape nurse's statement that her injuries were not consistent with consensual sex.

Mackey, though, suggested Winters had no idea when the bruise occurred, and got him to acknowledge that the woman needed no treatment for injuries when she was examined. She also questioned him on whether he saw marks on her neck when he interviewed her the next day.

"She talks on how Mr. Kobe Bryant grabbed her neck and choked her," Mackey told Winters. "You looked at her neck to see?"

Winters said he had, then Mackey asked him if he saw any injuries on her neck.

"Not from the front, no," he said.

"Not a red mark?" she asked.

"That's correct," he said.

"Not a scratch?"

"That's correct."

Winters said the woman seemed serious when he first interviewed her with her parents at their Eagle home.

"I sensed a crackle in her voice," he said. "She stated that he raped her."

Bryant faces up to life in prison if convicted of a felony charge of sexual assault.

Legal experts had expected the defense to waive the hearing and head straight to trial rather than allow prosecutors to lay out their case for the first time _ evidence that will be discussed in public for months.

Gannett had rejected defense requests to have the woman testify and to see her medical records.

The hearing began as hundreds of reporters and a handful of spectators gathered outside the courthouse to catch a glimpse of Bryant as he arrived with his lawyers in a caravan of three SUVs. He said nothing to the crowd.

Bryant had to take off a necklace and was checked with metal detectors before walking into the courtroom.

Bryant, free on $25,000 bond, had been ordered to appear in court for a bond hearing even if the preliminary hearing was waived. He left the Hawaii training camp of the Los Angeles Lakers on Wednesday.

Bryant has the right to go to trial within six months of entering a plea, but he could agree to push that back until later, perhaps after the NBA season ends early next summer.

Copyright 2003, Rocky Mountain News. All Rights Reserved.


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To: Peach
Ditto that. This is why women don't report rape. It gets so ugly and they tear the victim down.

I'm asking this in all honesty: what would you have Kobe do to defend himself, especially since ANY questioning of the accuser is immediately branded as "trying to smear the accuser."

461 posted on 10/09/2003 7:17:49 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I would suspect that the police would want a medical examination immediately after taking her statement.
462 posted on 10/09/2003 7:18:48 PM PDT by per loin
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To: jimbo123
Unless the medical report says she was menstrating, that is a monster piece of evidence against Kobe.
Blood on his shirt also fits with her version; that he just dropped his pants while bending her over a chair, instead of getting fully undressed and having consensual sex in the bed.
463 posted on 10/09/2003 7:19:23 PM PDT by WackyKat
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To: per loin
Well, they are saying she didn't go until the next day; that's odd; that might be something else that is confusing.
464 posted on 10/09/2003 7:19:48 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: WackyKat
Absolutely!
465 posted on 10/09/2003 7:20:55 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Peach
Get the rope!
466 posted on 10/09/2003 7:20:56 PM PDT by per loin
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To: Peach
I am the person who suggested that someone just doesn't wake up one morning and become a rapist. Other type of deviant behavior, such as patterns of uncontrollable rage, violence, and other anti-social behavior would be noted in a person's past prior to an episode of sexual assualt. I assure you that if Bryant has raped before, there would be women coming out of the woodwork now and frankly, there hasn't been any such reports. On the contrary, people in his past including ex-girlfriends have spoken very highly of him
467 posted on 10/09/2003 7:21:31 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: jimbo123
Forced her to his his penis after the attack

Soaked in semen and various fluids, smeared with her own blood, he forced her to kiss the penis he raped her with.

Swell guy. What a hero.

468 posted on 10/09/2003 7:21:47 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Howlin
I'm answering honestly too. See my #457 (I think that's the number - about Nancy Grace's report tonight).

I think when there's bleeding, vaginal tearing, bruising around the jaw/neck area and Kobe's own friend says Kobe told him she was hysterical - it just doesn't sound like consensual sex.

A defense - I don't know how he can defend himself. I don't think questioning of the accuser is a "smear" job until they start doing what they did today.

Saying her name over and over. Against the law. Intimidation.

Saying she had sex with 3 men in 3 days without providing proof. Disgusting.

Lawyers almost always try to trash the victim's reputation in cases like this. Are ALL women who get raped trashy, mentally unstable, asking for it, dressed provacatively? Of course not. BUt that's how they ALL get portrayed by the defense lawyers. That is not fair play.

469 posted on 10/09/2003 7:21:51 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: aristeides
I bet the prosecution is not pleased with this locked in. When the officer who interviewed her first says he saw "not a scratch", and on her neck "not a mark".

Mackey suggested Winters had no idea when the bruise occurred, and got him to acknowledge that the woman needed no treatment for injuries when she was examined. She also questioned him on whether he saw marks on her neck when he interviewed her the next day.

"She talks on how Mr. Kobe Bryant grabbed her neck and choked her," Mackey told Winters. "You looked at her neck to see?"

Winters said he had, then Mackey asked him if he saw any injuries on her neck.

"Not from the front, no," he said.

"Not a red mark?" she asked.

"That's correct," he said.

"Not a scratch?"

"That's correct."

470 posted on 10/09/2003 7:22:23 PM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: Peach
Did you see that BARF piece where Hagala Clinton says she doesn't want to work with a Predator!! WHAT??????? She's married to and lives with the world's chief PREDATOR. What a Hypocrit!!
471 posted on 10/09/2003 7:22:26 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: per loin
I'm confused about when she went to the hospital. Was it one day after or two?

I heard on tv today she didn't bathe and so can't believe it was 2 days. Hard to believe it was even one.
472 posted on 10/09/2003 7:22:40 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach; Howlin
Peach: The article posted above states she was 19.

Howlin, I don't know whether he's innocent or guilty but what I DO KNOW is that I cannot stomach the sneaky pete tactics Mackey is using. After breaking the Rape Shield Law by mentioning the victim's name four times she apologized, saying "she would write herself a big note not to say it". She's a mud slinger who, IMHO, would go to any means to get her client off, regardless of his guilt or innocence. She may also turn the jury against her is she continues along these dispicable lines.

473 posted on 10/09/2003 7:22:53 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: Toespi
Seeing how this woman is being treated you still think other rape victims would be coming out of the wood? Not me. No way.

Do I think he raped before? Don't know. Did he rape this time? I think so but don't know.

Every rapist has a first time and I don't think they ALL have a prior history of violence. He's only 25.
474 posted on 10/09/2003 7:24:37 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
Kobe says she was crying because he stopped having sex with her!

And I thought my girlfriend was the only one!

475 posted on 10/09/2003 7:25:08 PM PDT by WackyKat
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To: StarFan
Bryant and/or his team must be paying that lawyer a lot of money for her to risk losing her license.
476 posted on 10/09/2003 7:25:10 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Howlin
Doing a lot of guessing here, but I'd suspect that Stan Goldman is interpreting the "next day" to be the one after her talking to the cops rather than the one after the alledged rape. In general, TV's talking heads should be horsewhipped weekly to improve their attention to fact.
477 posted on 10/09/2003 7:25:14 PM PDT by per loin
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To: Canadian Outrage
NO! I didn't see that. H. Clinton said she doesn't want to work with Arnold? Sheesh
478 posted on 10/09/2003 7:25:36 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: WackyKat
LOL
479 posted on 10/09/2003 7:26:08 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
Drugs could account for a change in behavior. Was Bryant tested for drugs?
480 posted on 10/09/2003 7:26:12 PM PDT by aristeides
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