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Limbaugh's Secret Life
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| 10/06/2003
| Carol Devine-Molin
Posted on 10/07/2003 5:37:58 AM PDT by jimmccleod
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To: AnalogReigns
most damaging C) Rush has not denied the charges, only refused to address them. Today, he has opened his show without talking about the charges at all. So far, it's all California recall.
To: Joe Hadenuf
All this BS about he was told by his attorney to keep his mouth shut, *even if he is totally innocent* are just BS.
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You are delusional. Every attorney would tell their client to keep quiet. I would tell my client to keep quiet and OUT of the media. ANYTHING you say can be twisted in court.
You comment about keeping quiet being BS, is lacking in judgment.
To: SerpentDove
I don't think this will ruin Rush's credibility, even if true. Idolators won't change their minds. Those that hate him won't change their minds.
Those who understand credibilty will tune to another station. If true.
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posted on
10/07/2003 9:17:17 AM PDT
by
Protagoras
(Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
To: jimmccleod
For there to be a case against Rush the police would have had to catch him with the evidence, since Rush stated he didn't even know there was an investigation going on means that did not happen. If Rush was hooked on pain killers for medical reasons it should not be held against him. I have never heard him stumble on words or ideas on his show so I'm having a real hard time thinking that he was a pill junkie.
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posted on
10/07/2003 9:17:25 AM PDT
by
John Lenin
(Remember, we're fighting for this woman's honor, which is probably far more than she's ever done)
To: jimmccleod
A former first woman (Betty Ford) had the same problem, yet libs revere her as 'courageous'. I still withhold judgement until and if..... Guilty or not, Rush is being targeted by the communists because he's right.
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posted on
10/07/2003 9:21:44 AM PDT
by
hardhead
(Vast Right Wing Conspirator, Serial Number 565723890)
To: longtermmemmory
You forget that Rush is one of the highest paid entertainers in America (if not the highest?). The man makes more in a few days than most of us make in a year or two.
Folks that wealthy don't follow the usual drug offender rules... You can bet that law enforcement is going slow and sure--knowing that the nation's best attorney's will be fighting their work.
To: AnalogReigns
Which is why listeners like you are ENABLING the DNC to try Rush in the Court of Public Opinion. They use the leftwing media as evidence (Clinton buddies at the National Enquirer) and public desire to be sheep as qualification to jurros.
What overwheling evidence? The only "evidence" has been a picture of a cigar box, a picture of a gas station, the uncorroberated (yes there is no corroberation), the statement to the MERE existence of audio tapes, MERE existence of emails. NOTHING, NOTHING has been linked directly to Rush other than the woman WAS a former employee of Rush.
There IS NO EVIDENCE as yet. NOTHING, nada, zip.
Reverse everything you said. IF there was something, the tapes would be out there. I have heard stories report it was her only, others say rush is on, others say the tapes are uninteligible. Again, there is no proof because it would have been PRODUCED. Same for emails.
TO THE ENQUIRER: IF THERE IS AUDIO TAPE PROOF, PRODUCE IT OR SHUT UP. There is nothing there to produce.
To: jimmccleod
Even if Rush were a child-molesting cross-dresser, he still speaks the desperately-needed truth about the decline of America that is underway at the hands of liberals.
For any patriot to countenance, encourage, hope for, or participate in his unlikely demise would be treasonable.
Prescription drug dependence is an illness and not a moral failing. Obtaining controlled meds is an illegal act, but in the unlikely event that Rush has fallen victim to this illness should not, he is deserving of leniency, support, and assistance.
But, hell, what am I saying? This entire allegation is a crock undoubtedly perpetrated by the usual Libo-Crat suspects, starting with the Democrat chad-baiters that control his county of residence......
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posted on
10/07/2003 9:24:13 AM PDT
by
tracer
To: Protagoras
>>Those who understand credibilty will tune to another station. If true.<<
I understand credibility. What part of Rush's brilliant insight and political commentary will be negated?
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posted on
10/07/2003 9:24:26 AM PDT
by
SerpentDove
(Visit my profile page! Steal my graphics!)
To: SerpentDove
The part where he extolls the virtues of the WOD. And the part where he talks about the constant pursuit of the truth. And the part where he excoriates drug users.
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posted on
10/07/2003 9:28:21 AM PDT
by
Protagoras
(Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
To: fishbabe
...what it said hes doing it makes him a hypocrite and damages his credibility for anything else that he may talk about...
Two things: First, you've tried, convicted, and hung Rush before you even know what the truth is. Second, who said Rush didn't have skeletons in his closet like we all do?
Most of the posts on this thread have Rush convicted as a secret druggy, and no one has given the guy the benefit of the doubt, yet everyone says how much they respect and admire the guy. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Especially among his own fans. If all it takes is an article in the liberal press to have Rush's "loyal fans" turn against him how "loyal" are those fan?
Let's suppose, for arguement's sake, that Rush does have a problem. How does that make what he says any less true?
He's always said that he'd meet anyone "in the arena of ideas", and debate them there with facts and logic. How does that make him any less credible? If the facts hold up, and the logic does too, that's all I'm looking for. I'm not into celebrityhood, and all I want from Rush is his expertise in the political arena of ideas. I'm not looking for someone to worship.
...remember what happen to bill bennett and his gamblingproblem..
I remember, and that doesn't mean that Bennett was wrong about his ideas. Bennett's facts and logic hold up under examination just as Rush's do, and that's all I'm asking of these two guys.
I'm not going to do the liberal moral equivalency thing and trash a guy because he has problems. I'm not about to act like a liberal. So, I'll wait and see what unfolds about Rush, but I'll still depend on him to provide Conservative commentary that I can't get any place else. His private life is exactly that - private.
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posted on
10/07/2003 9:28:33 AM PDT
by
Noachian
(Liberalism belongs to the Fool, the Fraud, and the Vacuous)
To: AnalogReigns
I know the palm beach prosecutors office. I am certain they are out of their league. Under normal circumstances this would be a non case and never be brought forward. This is only festering because a few phone calls have been made and this is now a political case not a criminal case. They are not proceeding slow, they were NEVER interested in proceeding against Rush.
If they were going to go after Rush they would have set up a controlled sting with proper surveilance and wires. If they had a case worth chasing, we would be listening to audio and video developed by law enforcement. NOT some con artist who sold her story to the enquirer.
You forget, the best the prosecutors office can achieve is a dismissed case. FL's drug offender court for first time offenders guarantees that result. Why should any prosecution go forward to achieve a dismissal? Answer: prolonging the case gives the Democrats cover. It gives democrats ammo against Rush.
Sorry, you theory does not pan out.
To: tracer
Prescription drug dependence is an illness and not a moral failing.I will give you another side of this.
Prescription drugs of the pain killer variety cause an addiction that cannot be avoided.
I use them out of necessity and have for the past five years. I detox myself about once per year to try to keep from increasing the dose.(against my doctors advice)
The word addiction is being constantly misused.
The word used to define a prescription drug problem is abuse.
Addiction comes with the use of these necessary drugs.
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posted on
10/07/2003 9:36:51 AM PDT
by
Cold Heat
("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
To: jimmccleod
Two words. Richard Jewell.
To: Noachian
but then libs have the same right not to be trashed for their private doings by rush limbaugh!!!!!
To: Protagoras
So since William Bennett gambles and Rush possibly has a drug problem, that negates their message?
I don't think so.
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posted on
10/07/2003 9:45:14 AM PDT
by
SerpentDove
(Visit my profile page! Steal my graphics!)
To: shrinkermd; snopercod
The clinic is advertising its wares; it just sounds different, given the case of Rush Limbaugh, but is the same as a hospital advertising its new maternity ward: "Come on in!" If you have a problem, we have the quick [short]cut to cure.
Well, the hearing area of medicine is sensitive enough, where the frontier research is, that I know of personally, that the possibilities of abstinence from external factors has been, and is being, studied for the purpose of revsersing the effects of suspect "associations."
In fact, in the study mentioned above, the causes are neither known nor proven; rather, there is only, still, the number-crunching of statistical correlations, the accuracy of which, as you know, being a shrink who has no doubt seen how the numbers can be spun, are as easily argued to make the "associations" to be still, mostly speculation under the color of crafted tables of numbers that are "guaranteed to" dazzle the finance committee.
Meanwhile, I am given to understand, that the risk of cutting the nerves, is considered great enough to not perform surgery if there is any chance of audio improvement --- surgery is postponed, sometimes for years.
The clinic's statement is that its controls did not work to reverse the hearing loss, and so they proceeded with surgery. In this day, I can understand how clinics generate business that way ... instead of just saying No.
The medical center that I respect greatly, will say No --- they will not cut the nerves until they believe they are certain where the hearing has failed, because they want to know why it has failed. Their long-term goal is to NOT perform surgery, but to understand more about hearing loss and how it may more safely be fixed up.
I personally suspect that some drugs do cause hearing loss, because I have had the problem caused by aspirin, not to mention that atabrine or quinacrine can shake your hearing out of your head for a while. So I am a believer when the info states that drugs can do it, but that, my information is that if drugs might be the culprit, to wait ...
Well, we live in a rush-ful society. People with back problems, who should go home and lie down for three weeks, and do exercises, and let the back heal, and strengthen the back --- as we used to fix this problem in the old days, nowadays hurry to the pharmacist and to the surgeon.
After surgery, it is shock for some to learn that, given time, that bulge in the disc will actually deteriorate and diminish --- that the chemicals of the FRESH bulge or protrusion from the disc, actually irritate the nerves and are causing the "numbness" and subsequent spasms and pain.
Very hard to convince a patient to sleep with their legs up and entirely supported by layers of pillows --- we call it the astronaut seat position --- so that their lower back "assumes the position" of repair.
Because people are impatient.
My sympathies with back pain sufferers, because I'd sure want to get well soon.
Considering my friend's experience, though not in pain, yet slowly being isolated because of losing his hearing, I can understand the urge to find a quick cure.
He was observed for two years, prior to surgery, because the people in the know, at this particular medical center, are particular.
Yet, I must state again, that Rush Limbaugh is wealthy enough to prevail upon a clinic with ambitions; but would he? I happen to think that is not his style.
My caution regarding Rush, is not that some event would cause him to quit his prime radio spot, but that he would reveal that "it really was about him all along," and that he would quit simply to make a point that he can do something else.
I believe that Rush, given a good reception at ESPN, would have left "talk radio," much to the surprise of about the same number of people who are surprised in regard to what they suspect now.
Tip: I know that Rush did not know, early on, what to do about his hearing loss --- he did not know anything about cochlear implants.
I believe that his hearing loss was because of the same influence that affects pilots of yore --- not from engine sounds as much as from radio noise.
The old sets, and I've listened in, were, are atrocious. I am surprised that anybody has any hearing left, after being in World War II or the Korean War.
What you hear in the movies or from recordings, are the good recordings. The horrendous racket that otherwise prevailed over the headsets, has to have been damaging.
There's nothing like a radio headset, worn by trade, to wreck your hearing. The audience does not see, nor hear, the many, many times that you have to yank the things off your head, because the "feedback" is killing your ears!
To wit: In the reports to date, there is not any evidence of Rush Limbaugh having had, or now having, a "drug problem."
Furthermore, I work on computer systems, and spend time on e-mail security and fraud. E-mails that may exist in the possession, now, of "law enforcement," can all have been forged; but good detective work --- if the departments involved, will take the time --- can find the e-mail time stamps in the e-mail server logs, which should help verify when these supposedly were sent and received.
Without a perfect time stamp on each point of transit from A to B and back, an e-mail is worthless for evidence --- if a juror and a jurist and a D.A. would care to bother to know.
Now, if the D.A. has actual taped conversations of Rush Limbaugh looking for drugs unlawfully and illegally, then Rush is in trouble, but only then.
So my question is, Would Rush do such a thing?
I somehow just don't think that he would jeopardize his position for which he's worked for so long ... especially given the nature of Rush, as I am inclined to understand from what I know of his grandfather.
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posted on
10/07/2003 9:54:01 AM PDT
by
First_Salute
(America was not built in a day.)
To: SerpentDove
So since William Bennett gambles and Rush possibly has a drug problem, that negates their message? Depends on what their message is. If Bennett's message was anti gambling he would have been finished on the spot. As it is, he has just faded away. Like Rush will if this is true.
He is a supporter of the WOD and spread lots of stories about Clinton's alleged drug usage.
I don't think so.
Opinions are like that. People disagree when they predict the future.
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posted on
10/07/2003 9:57:33 AM PDT
by
Protagoras
(Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
To: uncbob
I think I understand what you are saying here.. but not sure. Would you clarify pls?
Are you saying that if it were Al "hot lips" Franken being assaulted by "allegations" -- Rush Fans would be polite about it? Yes, I think they would be -- they'd be waiting for facts.
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posted on
10/07/2003 9:58:16 AM PDT
by
Alia
(California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
To: Noachian
all i am saying is everyone else has the same right to expect rush limbaugh not to stick his nose in their private lives either.....and you know if bill clinton had said the same thing rush is saying,rush would have been all over him for his non denial denial... and thats the truth that sticks in everyones mind ..if this had been bill clinton no freeper would have given him the benefit of the doubt.....
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