Scientists Vie To Break Junk DNA's Secret Code

The Telegraph (UK) ^ | Roger Highfield

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Scientists vie to break junk DNA's secret code

By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
(Filed: 06/10/2003)

Huge tracts of human DNA, previously written off as meaningless junk, have been found to contain a hitherto unrecognised "genetic grammar", making the language of our genes much more complex than previously thought.

The discovery is of potentially huge significance, since it could lead to an entirely new explanation for certain diseases and symptoms. A race is now on among teams of scientists worldwide to investigate this cryptic code.

While the genetic recipe of a human being is spelt out with three billion letters of DNA code, only about two per cent of these correspond to the genes - the DNA that describes the proteins that build and operate bodies.

In the latest issue of the journal Science, Prof Stylianos Antonarakis of the University of Geneva Medical School, Dr Ewen Kirkness of the Institute of Genomic Research, Maryland, and colleagues have reported compelling evidence that up to three per cent of our genetic material has a crucial role that is not understood.

They made the unexpected discovery that some DNA regions of humans, dogs and species as distant as elephant and wallaby are nearly identical. These regions of what were once called junk have been dubbed "conserved non-genic sequences", or CNGs, a reference to how they are not conventional genes.

Prof Antonarakis said: "I suspect that mutations in CNGs may contribute to numerous genetic disorders." Defects in CNGs could result in illness while the symptoms of Down's syndrome, caused by an extra copy of a chromosome, might be linked to the presence of additional CNGs.

"Many laboratories are now working on identifying pathogenic mutations," he said.

[Junior]

First, I have no control over anyone here, so I can't make him answer your question. Second, if it is Aric, he's doing a damned good job of hiding the fact. Ogmios bears less resemblance to Aric2000 than goodseedhomeschool(returned) bore to ALS.

[DittoJed2]

You're wrong there, and nobody on this forum is currently ALS. ALS has remained off the forum since he was banned. Some were obsessed thinking Jesse was ALS, but he wasn't. If you will look at the case against Ogmios, it's clear he is Aric. The people at Free Republic don't seem to have a problem with that, and its their forum so guess it will have to remain as it is.

[Boiler Plate]

Vade
Then quit trying to defend him. Otherwise there is guilt by association. As far as people trying to sneak back in, shame on them. If I get banned I won't be back other than to lurk. I find FR to be a great source for news. I do not have a crusade to wage like A2 does, the truth is the truth and in time we will all be face to face with it.

Again why doesn't he just answer the question and why do you keep trying to cover for him?
Pleasant Regards,
Boiler Plate

[Boiler Plate]

Junior,
Did you actually read my post?

[Boiler Plate]

Why doesn't he answer the question then?

[Junior]

Yes. And I answered it. If I didn't understand what you wrote, then you must not have communicated it as well as you may have thought.

[Junior]

Ogam:

[VadeRetro]

Again why doesn't he just answer the question and why do you keep trying to cover for him?

I do not know why people do what they do. The pack you are running with has been after Alamo-Girl, then me, then A-G again. I don't call them the creepy-stalkies for nothing. There is no reason I should be in sympathy with what you're doing and I'm not.

A better question might be why you're doing what you're doing. You've ignored the substance of my posts 223 and 232. Get out of my face about who other posters are. If the Admin Mods don't answer your pings, you're just SOL, Charlie.

[f.Christian]

paranoids schizophrenics !

[Nebullis]

1) As a man, I resent that.

Tell me why why why oh whyaiaia...

2) Why do you think they call it the "Why?" chromosome?

I give up.
But there is some good news. The few chromosomes that are on the Y are there in duplicate and there is some kind of self-recombination that takes place, effectively screening out errrors. No chromosome partner needed.

[Boiler Plate]

Junior,
Let me explain then. What I posted were posts from Aric2000 and from Ogmios. He uses the same argument about God not being a "scientific causation" in almaost a verbatum manner. Now what is so difficult to understand about that? BTW A2/Oggy is the only person I have seen use that argument. There may be others, I just have not seen any. Nonetheless it is way beyond the realm of just suspicious. However he refuses to answer the question directly even though he saw the question posted to him.

So tell me Junior do you think it is the same person or not?

Regards,
Boiler Plate

[Junior]

I still don't think it's Aric. He'd be all over you by now if he were. We all argue that God cannot be used as a causation as there is no way to test for Him. You've been on these threads long enough to know that.

[DittoJed2]

I ignorred Alamo Girl for a while and you and Balrog, and PatrickHenry. I asked Alamo Girl two questions on this thread and suddenly, the next day, after no communication was handed a warning for "harassment" from JimRob. Anyone who has been on these threads knows that is simply untrue but you all have managed to have 3 posters banned and continue to get away with virtual murder. I'm on notice for the first time since I've been posting (and I've been quite an active poster over the years) and its all based on a lie. Aric said that we have no shame earlier on. You all are the ones (and I'm talking to a small minority of evolutionists here) who are the shameless ones. If I'm going down, I'm not going down without the truth being out there. Since an utter lie about what I'm doing is going to get me in trouble around here, then I figure they'll get rid of me anyway no matter what I do. And, I acknowledge their right to do that. It's their forum. If they want Aric to stay, knowing full well who he is, that's fine too. I'm not trying to get him banned. But I am telling the truth about his feigned "newbie" status- particularly since he continues to attack the honesty of creationists everywhere.

[balrog666]

If the Admin Mods don't answer your pings, you're just SOL, Charlie.

You have a way with words. Boil it down anymore and it will be just two words (and one of them is "OFF").

[VadeRetro]

The pulling of at least two threads hides how ugly your campaigns against A-G and me were. You're back on VI.

Out for a bit.

[DittoJed2]

I didn't go after Alamo Girl until she started misusing Scripture to attack other posters. As for you, I gave what I was given. You too are now on VI. Good day.

[Boiler Plate]

Honest Truly Regards

"The lady doth protest too much."

For more of the game you're playing, and how it comes out, start reading here to at least here. Same crew, before a few casualties. Perhaps the ugliness is more obvious.

I had the same crew yipping and yapping after me a couple of times, notably on the thread that was pulled with with this message. These are the dogs you're bedding down with. Expect fleas.

Vade,

In case you forgot you were the one who jumped in with your smart ass comments. Now you and A2 have been caught. Too bad I thought you were smarter than that. So at this point butt out.

Warm Regards,
Boiler Plate

[balrog666]

... but you all have managed to have 3 posters banned and continue to get away with virtual murder.

Don't rewrite history. They were banned because of their destructive behavour on this forum - and no other reason. If you don't like that, take it up with the owner of the site.

[Boiler Plate]

Junior,
Please provide a couple of examples.

[DittoJed2]

JimRob can do whatever JimRob wishes. I have let him know my displeasure at being named as a "harasser" of Alamo Girl. He is free to ban or keep whomever he wishes.