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Slaying theories involve devil, Nazis, art
The Mercury News ^ | Oct 6, 2003 | Julia Prodis Sulek

Posted on 10/06/2003 5:46:03 AM PDT by runningbear

Slaying theories involve devil, Nazis, art

Posted on Mon, Oct. 06, 2003

Slaying theories involve devil, Nazis, art

HEARING OCT. 20 IN CASE OF MODESTO HOMEMAKER

By Julia Prodis Sulek
Mercury News

MODESTO - Nazi Low Riders named Dirty and Skeeter, an old Satanic cult called the Order of Lion, and bizarre paintings of decapitated women and floating fetuses. These are the latest surreal elements in the Laci Peterson murder case.

Who could have guessed that the death of this pregnant homemaker who watched ``Martha Stewart Living'' each morning and had a wine-of-the-month club membership would be intertwined with such seamy images?

But no theory, it seems, is too far-fetched for a case that feeds tabloid headlines and talk show debates. Two especially macabre scenarios have arisen as the Oct. 20 preliminary hearing approaches.

One centers on a jailhouse informant who passed a lie-detector test after claiming two gang thugs were hired to kill Peterson's wife. The other resurrects a decade-old quadruple homicide outside Modesto by devil worshipers who believed the purest sacrifice is the killing of a newborn baby.

One scenario could send Peterson to the death chamber. The other could set him free. Could either be true? Or has a thirst for the sensational spawned titillating tales when the reality may be something far simpler: a cheating husband killing his wife to be with his mistress?

The prosecution is expected to push that more simple theory when it lays out its case for the first time at Peterson's preliminary hearing in Modesto. But until then the focus has shifted to bald, tattooed gangsters and robe-clad Satanists.

The Nazi Low Riders

It was only two weeks ago that Cory Carroll, a Fresno jail inmate, issued a startling statement: Scott Peterson used him to set up a murder-for-hire.

According to Carroll's lawyer, Frank Muna, it started in early November last year at a Fresno strip club called City Lights. After seeing Carroll's prison identification card when he paid for a drink, Peterson struck up a conversation. They spent the next several hours together watching the dancers, shooting pool and bar hopping.

``Scott mentioned he would like to buy his wife a new car for Christmas,'' but if he sold the old one he didn't think he would get much money for it, said Muna, who grew up in East San Jose. ``He asked my client if he knew anyone willing to steal the car so he could claim it on his insurance.''

Peterson offered him $300 to make an introduction, Muna said. A couple of weeks later, on Nov. 29, Carroll brought Peterson together with Dirty and Skeeter, members of the Nazi Low Riders, a notorious prison gang known for murder, extortion and drug running.

The foursome gathered at Best Budget motel, where Carroll lived and worked as a maintenance man, Muna said. There, Peterson made a far more sinister proposal.

``He solicited the two guys, Dirty and Skeeter, to get rid of his wife -- first to kidnap his wife, then to get rid of her,'' Muna said. ``My client didn't want any part of that so he left. He ran into Dirty and Skeeter a half-hour later, and they told my client they were going to take care of what Scott wanted.''

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Frequent phone companions

Frequent phone companions

By GARTH STAPLEY and JOHN COTÉ

BEE STAFF WRITERS

Published: October 4, 2003, 07:27:19 AM PDT

Scott Peterson and his lover exchanged at least 37 telephone calls in the four weeks after she revealed their relationship at a Jan. 24 televised news conference, according to partial phone records. Authorities secretly taped their conversations for 3 1/2 weeks. Amber Frey's calls to the married man would continue for 15 days after the wiretaps stopped on Feb. 4, according to the records.

Whether Frey knew about the wiretaps -- or knew when they ended -- is not clear.

But the records suggest that Frey, who first contacted Modesto police on Dec. 30, cooperated with authorities. She appears to have regularly called Modesto police Detective Jon Buehler upon hanging up with Peterson, even after authorities stopped bugging his phones.

Peterson, 30, is charged with killing his wife, Laci, and their unborn son. Prosecutors believe Peterson pretended to know nothing about their deaths as thousands searched for the pregnant woman after she was reported missing Dec. 24. The bodies of mother and son were found in mid-April.

Though he had steadfastly denied Bee reports of the affair, Peterson reversed course in a half-dozen media interviews starting four days after Frey's Jan. 24 news conference. He admitted lying about his relationship with the 28-year-old massage therapist from Fresno, and said he had discussed it with his wife in early December. Frey has said she didn't know Peterson was married when they met Nov. 20.

The phone records show Peterson and Frey exchanged at least 76 calls over nine turbulent weeks that started nine days before Laci Peterson's disappearance. The calls stretched through the holidays, emotional news conferences, her birthday and the due date for Peterson's son before apparently ending Feb. 19.

On Feb. 10, Frey dialed Peterson's numbers four times -- and didn't call Buehler at all. The night before, the former lovers spoke for 34 minutes. Feb. 10 held significant events for both:

It was Frey's 28th birthday.

It marked Laci Peterson's due date.

Friends and family of Laci Peterson prayed in East La Loma Park, which volunteers had searched many times. Peterson was at home that evening, a short walk from the park.

Nude photos of Frey taken four years earlier first hit some National Enquirer newsstands.

Frey has spoken privately about receiving seven calls from Peterson on Valentine's Day. Phone records show she called Peterson once that day as well, and again at 2:42 a.m. the following day. Frey didn't immediately report either call to Buehler.

The phone records show:

Frey called Buehler's office phone, cell phone and home phone 191 times in a three-month stretch ending March 14, totaling more than 19 hours of conversation. Many of the calls came immediately after Frey's conversations with Peterson.

Frey and Buehler averaged nearly 16 calls and 1 1/2 hours of phone time per week.

Frey didn't call Peterson on Jan. 24. That evening, she stunned observers by going public with their relationship. The next day, they exchanged at least three calls.

The two spoke at least once on Jan. 27, the day Peterson taped his mea culpa for ABC's "Good Morning America." After the show aired the first segment of a two-part interview with Diane Sawyer the next day, Frey called Peterson's cell phone for a call that lasted 23 minutes.

That night, she phoned him again -- and the call lasted 52 minutes.

Frey also phoned Sawyer's office on Feb. 22. An assistant to Sawyer said the show has been trying for months to book an interview with Frey, without success.

Though police reported no new developments Feb. 1, records show a flurry of calls that day between Frey and Peterson, and Frey and Buehler.

Frey called Peterson's number nine times on two of his cell phones and spoke for almost 90 minutes. She called Buehler 19 times the same day, with the calls lasting a total of 61 minutes.

She also placed two calls that morning to Melvin King, a former Fresno police lieutenant who operates a polygraph and private investigation service. King refused Friday to say why Frey called.

King popped onto the Peterson media scene two weeks ago in connection with another aspect of the case. At a lawyer's request, he gave a lie-detector test earlier in the month to a jail inmate who claims that before his arrest he heard Scott Peterson discussing a plot to kidnap Laci Peterson with two members of a vicious neo-Nazi gang.

King has said that Cory Lee Carroll passed the polygraph.

In the nine weeks reflected in the partial phone records, Frey and Peterson totaled more than 8 1/2 hours in phone conversations -- an average of nearly one hour per week of phone time.

Frey's fingers busy dialing

Frey, who has shunned interviews, had at least some contact with several media companies from mid-January through mid-March.

Records show that in addition to phoning ABC's Sawyer, she called CNN's Connie Chung, a Fox News affiliate in Santa Monica and Fortune magazine. She also placed five calls to People magazine.

Frey last called Peterson on Feb. 19 at 7:36 a.m., the second day of a two-day search by police of Peterson's home. Investigators carried out dozens of bags of items.

The day before, police drove Peterson's white Dodge pickup away and returned it several hours later. State Attorney General Bill Lockyer would later say that police used global positioning satellite devices in the case and were tracking Peterson's truck.

Prosecutors might have put out information in an attempt to induce Peterson into making damaging statements that the wiretaps would pick up, Assistant San Francisco District Attorney James Hammer has said.

A week after a judge approved wiretaps on two of Peterson's cell phones, The Bee reported Peterson was having an affair with an unknown woman. That day, Frey dialed Peterson's phones twice -- and called Bueh- ler seven times.

At some point in January, prosecutors also confronted Peterson with a rare pre-arrest plea offer: They would take a possible death penalty off the table if Peterson would lead investigators to the body.

"It's called tickling," Hammer said. "They are going to dangle the death penalty and see if he gets scared enough to say stupid things."

DA nipped wiretap

But information from the wiretaps appears to have been of limited value to prosecutors.

According to court documents, the district attorney's office had asked a judge to cut off the first wiretap early, saying "further progress in the investigation would not be gained through additional interception."

State law allows a wiretap to run for up to 30 days, but a judge can grant an extension.

Court documents show the first wiretap was approved on Jan. 10 and ran to Feb. 4, the day a car dealer gave Laci Peterson's Land Rover to her family. Scott Peterson had traded the vehicle in toward the purchase of the Dodge truck.

Also Feb. 4, Frey phoned Peterson at 9:20 p.m. and again at 10:02 p.m.; the second call lasted 15 minutes. She then phoned Bueh- ler and spoke for 23 minutes -- the last of four calls to the detective that day. At 11:19 p.m., she called Peterson back and spoke for two minutes........

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Fresno attorney promotes Peterson story

Fresno attorney promotes Peterson story

His client in county jail alleges a conspiracy to kidnap, kill Laci Peterson.

By John Coté and Garth Stapley
The Modesto Bee
(Published Sunday, October 5, 2003, 5:29 AM)

A Fresno attorney has been making the interview rounds with a story that his client has crucial information linking Scott Peterson to the murder of his wife and unborn son.

During the last two weeks Frank Muna has appeared on ABC's "Good Morning America" and Fox News' "On the Record" with Greta Van Susteren and been interviewed by the press about his version of the Laci and Conner Peterson deaths -- that they were victims of one of several contract kidnap and killing scenarios.

Little information has surfaced to corroborate his accounts, and questions about his motivation have been raised.

Muna repeatedly has said his client, Fresno jail inmate Cory Lee Carroll, is not asking for anything in return for the information.

But Muna was in contact with tabloid news outlets to sell Carroll's story, two sources said. Muna called that untrue.

According to the sources, Muna sought more than $75,000 for the story from The National Enquirer.

Enquirer Senior Editor Charlie Montgomery confirmed his publication pays for stories, but he would not comment on whether Muna had contacted them or sought payment.

Muna said Wednesday he had not shopped the story. He said tabloids contacted him after The Bee reported the story Sept. 20.

"The National Enquirer made the offer, and we turned it down," Muna said. "This sounds more like there is some law enforcement -- some third party -- trying to influence credibility. We don't have anything to sell. All the information we have has been released."

Muna's information has come in distinct batches. He first said his client arranged a meeting between Peterson and two neo-Nazi gang members to discuss stealing Laci Peterson's vehicle for insurance money, but the talk soon turned to kidnapping.

The next week, Muna added to that account, saying Carroll heard Scott Peterson arranging to pay the gang members, identified as "Dirty" and "Skeeter," $22,000 to abduct and murder his pregnant wife. To this date, "Dirty" and "Skeeter" have not been publicly identified.

Muna suggested Scott Peterson failed to pay the money after he came under intense police scrutiny, and Laci Peterson died while being held. The disgruntled kidnappers could have dumped the bodies where Peterson said he went fishing to implicate him, Muna said.

Credibility was lent to the original car theft story because Carroll passed a lie-detector test administered by a veteran Fresno investigator.

But polygraph tests are not admissible in court because they are unreliable, and other parts of the story remain uncorroborated.

The identities and whereabouts of people named as key players in the scenarios remain elusive.

Authorities are refusing to comment on Muna's information, citing a sweeping gag order imposed in the case...........

(Excerpt) Read more at bayarea.com ...


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To: Velveeta
Good night! The important thing is that none of us have THAT dream, the one Scott has, where the police say, "Go home, Scott, it was all a mistake."

Scott... Jewell. No. NO!!! AAAAHHHHH!!!
301 posted on 10/11/2003 9:56:50 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Velveeta
Isn't Maderas a famous golf course in San Diego?

Who knew? (Besides you). Go to bed, girl.

302 posted on 10/11/2003 9:56:53 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Devil_Anse
Well, "artist" encompasses a lot of territory these days. (grin)
303 posted on 10/11/2003 9:58:17 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Sandylapper
Er, yes. Star/Randi is probably one, too.
304 posted on 10/11/2003 10:12:13 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Sandylapper; Velveeta
Yeah, that's too much information! About the golf course with the same name as the criminal! Now I'm wondering if Scott ever played golf there...
305 posted on 10/11/2003 10:14:19 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
You mean "an artist"? No doubt about it!!!!!
306 posted on 10/11/2003 10:19:39 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Devil_Anse; Velveeta
Way too much info! Gosh, and I sent Vel to bed! How will we ever make the connection?
307 posted on 10/11/2003 10:22:20 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Devil_Anse
Anse, I think we're left alone to continue this thread, and I want you to look at the paragraph below (copied from the article at the beginning of the thread):

One scenario could send Peterson to the death chamber. The other could set him free. Could either be true? Or has a thirst for the sensational spawned titillating tales when the reality may be something far simpler: a cheating husband killing his wife to be with his mistress?

The far simpler theory won't fly in light of Cory, IMO. We don't know exactly when Cory and Scott met, but it was in November. Scott met Amber on November 20. If Cory and Scott met before November 20th, Scott didn't have a mistress, Amber. If after November 20th, only slightly, so that won't fly with a jury either, I don't think.

Of course, I believe Cory and Scott did meet; you may not think so.

308 posted on 10/11/2003 10:37:53 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Devil_Anse
Where is the article about the jail NOT being in lockdown when Carroll was there, I know we had one here? That alone should blow his story out of the water, as this case was everywhere.

That, and the way Muna kept changing the details those first few days was faster than the River Dancers.

I just have the strong feeling that MDalton is "officially" not with the firm, but unofficially is another story. This way, if it works, great, if it doesn't and blows up in their face, he's the well paid (under the table) sacrificial lamb.
309 posted on 10/12/2003 12:38:28 AM PDT by Rusty Roberts (RB and RG have memories like elephants, thankfallully for those of us who read but post infrequently)
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To: Rusty Roberts
Let me add, I think anything is possible, in that these "players" are not what they appear to be, any of them.

The layers of Scott have begun to be pulled off, but only just begun. I think the same is going to be done to several other participants in this case, be they witnesses, victims, investigators or lawlyers etc. It is a slippery slope...
310 posted on 10/12/2003 12:49:47 AM PDT by Rusty Roberts (RB and RG have memories like elephants, thankfallully for those of us who read but post infrequently)
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To: Sandylapper
Sandy, I thought the Cory story got a bit of life breathed into it when no less a personage than Geraldo (!) said they've now found out the real name of one of Cory's thugs (Doug Maderas, or whatever his name is.)

But Rusty Roberts has reminded us of the lockdown lie that Cory told. I believe it was a lie. It never sounded right to begin with. IMO, it is highly unlikely that any prison or jail would keep ALL its prisoners in lockdown for the length of time Carroll said they all were in it. Jails and prisons will never stop giving inmates privileges, b/c that is just about the only way their personnel can get any cooperation whatsoever from the inmates. Such a prolonged--and indiscriminatory--lockdown (loss of all privileges) would have been a disaster, as it would have made the inmates more desperate by the day. I can't imagine it happening.

That poster Valpall was making sense in what he said, too: cons like Carroll will lie, and lie convincingly. Muna probably feels that he is protected from the consequences of Carroll's lies, since he can just say that he truly believed them, as much of the public did.

In the end, we might find that Scott did indeed play a game of pool with some Carroll; we might find that he even mentioned insurance fraud regarding the van. But I have a feeling that would probably be all.

I kind of want to believe the Carroll story, only b/c it holds a promise of our hearing what REALLY happened from someone--since it is clear that Scott isn't going to tell. But I really think we are being hoodwinked.
311 posted on 10/12/2003 5:44:40 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse; runningbear; Velveeta; Sandylapper; grizzfan; Jackie-O; drjulie; Canadian Outrage; ...
This is from Sunday's Fresno Bee,Oct 12. Tiled,"Frey calls revealed in phone records". There is a timeline at the bottom of the article,I did not repost here.
link
http://www.fresnobee.com/local/story/7582388p-8491240c.html

As observers around the world earlier this year waited for word on the missing Laci Peterson, secret, emotional bonds apparently developed between her loved ones and her husband's lover.
Amber Frey, who emerged Jan. 24 with a bombshell revelation of her romance with Scott Peterson, the next day began calling friends and family of Laci Peterson, according to partial telephone records.

By March 14, Frey had reached out 53 times to people close to Laci Peterson, totaling nearly 61/2 hours of telephone time.

Well-placed sources say Frey hoped to assure Laci's loved ones that she did not know that Scott Peterson was married when they began dating Nov. 20.

Frey also shared with them her hope, sources say, that the missing pregnant woman and her baby would be found safe.

The bodies of mother and son were recovered in mid-April along the shore of San Francisco Bay.

Peterson, 30, has pleaded not guilty to double-murder charges. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.

Peterson talked with Frey in February about his taking a lie-detector test, according to two sources. The phone records show that Frey called a respected polygrapher in Fresno, but the test never occurred, sources said.

Frey, a 28-year-old Fresno massage therapist, continued talking with Peterson for almost four weeks after she publicly acknowledged their romance, phone records reveal.

She appeared at the same time to have a direct line to authorities, who were secretly wiretapping Peterson's phones. Frey reported to her police handler immediately following many of her conversations with Peterson, records show.

"I hand it to Amber for doing the right thing," said Ron Grantski, Laci Peterson's stepfather.

Most of the people connected to Laci Peterson who were called by Frey declined to comment for this story. Grantski said they do not want to violate a court-imposed gag order preventing potential witnesses from discussing the case.

Frey did not return calls seeking comment.

Grantski indicated that some of the conversations with Frey included details of the investigation.

"A lot of it does pertain to the case," Grantski said. "It'll all come out in court; at least I hope it will." Grantski declined to comment further.

More than half of Frey's phone time with Laci Peterson's family and associates was spent with Lori Ellsworth, a close friend of the then-missing woman. Ellsworth spoke with Frey at least 20 times totaling nearly 31/2 hours, phone records show.

Ellsworth declined to comment.

Frey dialed three phones used by Laci Peterson's brother, Brent Rocha, nine times over the six-week period. She called Laci's sister, Amy Rocha, twice in February.

Frey called the home number of Grantski and Laci's mother, Sharon Rocha, twice, and dialed Rocha's cell phone twice, once talking for 22 minutes.

That conversation occurred Feb. 4, the day the court order for the first wiretap on Peterson's phones ended.

Phone records show that Frey additionally called Rene Tomlinson, another friend from Laci's youth. And she called the Sund-Carrington Memorial Reward Foundation and the cell phone of its executive director, Kim Petersen.

Kim Petersen has served as a spokeswoman for Laci Peterson's family. She said authorities notified her that she, too, may be called to testify at court proceedings.

Jeanette Sereno, an attorney and criminal justice professor at California State University, Stanislaus, said Frey may have connected with Laci Peterson's loved ones because all perceived themselves as having a common enemy: Scott Peterson.

Sereno said it is not surprising that some of the conversations, according to phone records, were lengthy. For example, Frey and Ellsworth appear to have spoken for 90 minutes on Jan. 28, the day that Peterson, in a nationally televised interview, admitted his affair with Frey.

"They're talking about emotional things," Sereno said. "Both sides have a lot to say. It's not a business call."

Ruth Jones, a criminal law professor at McGeorge School of Law in Sacramento and a former prosecutor, said that without knowing what was said, the calls between the family of a missing woman and the "other woman" appear odd.

"Maybe I'm cut from a harder cloth," Jones said. "My friend, daughter or sister is missing, maybe dead, and you're the [woman] her husband is sleeping with; I don't want to chat on the phone with you."

More important in a legal sense is how an important witness's credibility might be affected if she shared sensitive information with the victim's family, Jones and Sereno agreed.

Sereno said defense lawyers might be expected to question whether any bias by Laci Peterson's family could have worn off on Frey, perhaps unintentionally. Prosecutors, on the other hand, will want Frey "to look like a victim, not a temptress," Sereno said.

During the same period that Frey called Laci Peterson's loved ones, she also was busy on the phone with her former boyfriend. Records show that she exchanged at least 76 calls with Scott Peterson over nine turbulent weeks that started nine days before Laci Peterson's disappearance.

The calls between Frey and Scott Peterson stretched through the holidays, her birthday and the due date for Peterson's son before apparently ending Feb. 19 -- 15 days after investigators stopped bugging his phones.

Frey first called Modesto police at 1:43 a.m. Dec. 30. She would call authorities more than 200 times in the next six weeks, totaling more than 20 hours of conversation.

Prosecutors might have hoped to induce Peterson into making damaging statements that the wiretaps would pick up, Assistant San Francisco District Attorney James Hammer has said.

On Feb. 1, Frey called Ellsworth and Scott Peterson nine times for a total of 91 minutes, and dialed her police handler, detective Jon Buehler, 19 times on calls that lasted a total of 61 minutes.

That was the day that Frey explored arranging a lie-detector test for Peterson, according to sources. They said Peterson apparently offered to submit to a polygraph, but that the plan never materialized.

Phone records from that same day show that Frey twice called Melvin King, a former Fresno police lieutenant who operates a polygraph and private investigation service. King has refused to discuss the calls.

The reporters can be reached at gstapley@modbee.com jcote@modbee.com or (209) 578-2300.

312 posted on 10/12/2003 7:41:16 AM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay
Thank you, Maggie!

It sounds like Amber was perhaps getting background information from this Lori Ellsworth, who had obviously known Scott longer. Or perhaps telling Ellsworth some of what Scott said, in order to check to see if he was telling the truth about certain things, things like, maybe, where he was on particular days before Laci's death, etc. Ellsworth might have remembered, perhaps, certain evenings when she knew Scott and Laci were together at home, etc.

I wouldn't be surprised to find this Ellsworth testifying at the trial, and testifying that she sort of worked in concert with Amber, all under the direction of the police.
313 posted on 10/12/2003 7:52:01 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
This is a quote from two law professors commenting from the above article."More important in a legal sense is how an important witness's credibility might be affected if she shared sensitive information with the victim's family, Jones and Sereno agreed."

Devil Anse,in a past conversations you and I had talked about when Amber began cooperation with LE,she began acting as "an agent of the state".Given this,do you think these conversations will indeed receive intense scrutiny? And if so,what might the outcome be?
314 posted on 10/12/2003 9:20:04 AM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay; Devil_Anse; All
Thanks a bunch, Mags! Very informative! So the turbelent phone calls between Amber and Scott began "DAYS" before Laci disappeared?

In light of this timeline and phone calls, does anyone (besides me) wonder exactly when she mailed Scott the book with the note that informed him that her phones were tapped?

315 posted on 10/12/2003 10:03:31 AM PDT by Sandylapper (Was Amber a double agent?)
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To: Devil_Anse; Rusty Roberts; All
There is no question in my mind's eye that cons will lie, and I have no problem believing that Cory lied about the lockdown. I believe that when Amber moved for protection, we got a huge hint that others may have indeed been involved in the kidnap/murder of Laci, and probably upon learning about Amber's fear and protection, Cory thought it was time to play CYA. IOW, I think Cory learned something about "who knew what" about his meeting with Scott.

While it's probably true that Cory lied about the lockdown, was he questioned on the LD test about it?

316 posted on 10/12/2003 10:24:22 AM PDT by Sandylapper (Was Amber a double agent?)
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To: Devil_Anse
Maybe it's just a coincidence. Snott was probably already trying to come up with a theory that she was kidnapped. I'm not so sure these criminals are "really" part of the plan.
317 posted on 10/12/2003 1:58:23 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: MaggieMay
I don't know, Maggie. I imagine that if one of the people--say this Lori--whom Amber talked to a lot, testifies, she should expect to be dragged over the coals about "well, YOU'RE in tight with Amber Frey, aren't you, and we all know how SHE feels about the defendant, who lied to her..."

That same Lori, if she had anything which might be fit to present as evidence (testimony), would have been thoroughly questioned by the police anyway. She would also have been prepared for her testimony by the lawyers for the DA's office. So, I mean, if the defense wants to try to discredit a witness just b/c that person might have been told sensitive inside info by Amber, I don't see how they can. B/C chances are, many of the state's witnesses would have had inside conversations with far more direct state "agents" than Amber--DA's and police detectives. And I think that would be obvious to the jury anyway.
318 posted on 10/12/2003 3:29:15 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Sandylapper
I don't think they said Cory was asked any questions about the lockdown on the lie detector test. But, just my opinion, it's quite possible that Cory could beat a lie detector anyway. Furthermore, IMO, he was in a much more sympathetic and relaxing position when being tested than is someone who is clearly being suspected by police of a crime, and who is sitting in the hot seat in the police station. Here, Cory was just the "good guy volunteer."
319 posted on 10/12/2003 3:31:23 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Canadian Outrage
It's hard to decide what to think about this, isn't it? Don't forget, also, that by the time Scott made that statement about "I wouldn't wanna live in a house my wife was kidnapped from", he would have already known about the almost simultaneous burglary across the street. Maybe he was thinking of trying to blame the burglars for being Laci's "kidnappers".
320 posted on 10/12/2003 3:34:03 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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