Sandy, I thought the Cory story got a bit of life breathed into it when no less a personage than Geraldo (!) said they've now found out the real name of one of Cory's thugs (Doug Maderas, or whatever his name is.)
But Rusty Roberts has reminded us of the lockdown lie that Cory told. I believe it was a lie. It never sounded right to begin with. IMO, it is highly unlikely that any prison or jail would keep ALL its prisoners in lockdown for the length of time Carroll said they all were in it. Jails and prisons will never stop giving inmates privileges, b/c that is just about the only way their personnel can get any cooperation whatsoever from the inmates. Such a prolonged--and indiscriminatory--lockdown (loss of all privileges) would have been a disaster, as it would have made the inmates more desperate by the day. I can't imagine it happening.
That poster Valpall was making sense in what he said, too: cons like Carroll will lie, and lie convincingly. Muna probably feels that he is protected from the consequences of Carroll's lies, since he can just say that he truly believed them, as much of the public did.
In the end, we might find that Scott did indeed play a game of pool with some Carroll; we might find that he even mentioned insurance fraud regarding the van. But I have a feeling that would probably be all.
I kind of want to believe the Carroll story, only b/c it holds a promise of our hearing what REALLY happened from someone--since it is clear that Scott isn't going to tell. But I really think we are being hoodwinked.
This is from Sunday's Fresno Bee,Oct 12. Tiled,"Frey calls revealed in phone records". There is a timeline at the bottom of the article,I did not repost here.
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http://www.fresnobee.com/local/story/7582388p-8491240c.html As observers around the world earlier this year waited for word on the missing Laci Peterson, secret, emotional bonds apparently developed between her loved ones and her husband's lover.
Amber Frey, who emerged Jan. 24 with a bombshell revelation of her romance with Scott Peterson, the next day began calling friends and family of Laci Peterson, according to partial telephone records.
By March 14, Frey had reached out 53 times to people close to Laci Peterson, totaling nearly 61/2 hours of telephone time.
Well-placed sources say Frey hoped to assure Laci's loved ones that she did not know that Scott Peterson was married when they began dating Nov. 20.
Frey also shared with them her hope, sources say, that the missing pregnant woman and her baby would be found safe.
The bodies of mother and son were recovered in mid-April along the shore of San Francisco Bay.
Peterson, 30, has pleaded not guilty to double-murder charges. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.
Peterson talked with Frey in February about his taking a lie-detector test, according to two sources. The phone records show that Frey called a respected polygrapher in Fresno, but the test never occurred, sources said.
Frey, a 28-year-old Fresno massage therapist, continued talking with Peterson for almost four weeks after she publicly acknowledged their romance, phone records reveal.
She appeared at the same time to have a direct line to authorities, who were secretly wiretapping Peterson's phones. Frey reported to her police handler immediately following many of her conversations with Peterson, records show.
"I hand it to Amber for doing the right thing," said Ron Grantski, Laci Peterson's stepfather.
Most of the people connected to Laci Peterson who were called by Frey declined to comment for this story. Grantski said they do not want to violate a court-imposed gag order preventing potential witnesses from discussing the case.
Frey did not return calls seeking comment.
Grantski indicated that some of the conversations with Frey included details of the investigation.
"A lot of it does pertain to the case," Grantski said. "It'll all come out in court; at least I hope it will." Grantski declined to comment further.
More than half of Frey's phone time with Laci Peterson's family and associates was spent with Lori Ellsworth, a close friend of the then-missing woman. Ellsworth spoke with Frey at least 20 times totaling nearly 31/2 hours, phone records show.
Ellsworth declined to comment.
Frey dialed three phones used by Laci Peterson's brother, Brent Rocha, nine times over the six-week period. She called Laci's sister, Amy Rocha, twice in February.
Frey called the home number of Grantski and Laci's mother, Sharon Rocha, twice, and dialed Rocha's cell phone twice, once talking for 22 minutes.
That conversation occurred Feb. 4, the day the court order for the first wiretap on Peterson's phones ended.
Phone records show that Frey additionally called Rene Tomlinson, another friend from Laci's youth. And she called the Sund-Carrington Memorial Reward Foundation and the cell phone of its executive director, Kim Petersen.
Kim Petersen has served as a spokeswoman for Laci Peterson's family. She said authorities notified her that she, too, may be called to testify at court proceedings.
Jeanette Sereno, an attorney and criminal justice professor at California State University, Stanislaus, said Frey may have connected with Laci Peterson's loved ones because all perceived themselves as having a common enemy: Scott Peterson.
Sereno said it is not surprising that some of the conversations, according to phone records, were lengthy. For example, Frey and Ellsworth appear to have spoken for 90 minutes on Jan. 28, the day that Peterson, in a nationally televised interview, admitted his affair with Frey.
"They're talking about emotional things," Sereno said. "Both sides have a lot to say. It's not a business call."
Ruth Jones, a criminal law professor at McGeorge School of Law in Sacramento and a former prosecutor, said that without knowing what was said, the calls between the family of a missing woman and the "other woman" appear odd.
"Maybe I'm cut from a harder cloth," Jones said. "My friend, daughter or sister is missing, maybe dead, and you're the [woman] her husband is sleeping with; I don't want to chat on the phone with you."
More important in a legal sense is how an important witness's credibility might be affected if she shared sensitive information with the victim's family, Jones and Sereno agreed.
Sereno said defense lawyers might be expected to question whether any bias by Laci Peterson's family could have worn off on Frey, perhaps unintentionally. Prosecutors, on the other hand, will want Frey "to look like a victim, not a temptress," Sereno said.
During the same period that Frey called Laci Peterson's loved ones, she also was busy on the phone with her former boyfriend. Records show that she exchanged at least 76 calls with Scott Peterson over nine turbulent weeks that started nine days before Laci Peterson's disappearance.
The calls between Frey and Scott Peterson stretched through the holidays, her birthday and the due date for Peterson's son before apparently ending Feb. 19 -- 15 days after investigators stopped bugging his phones.
Frey first called Modesto police at 1:43 a.m. Dec. 30. She would call authorities more than 200 times in the next six weeks, totaling more than 20 hours of conversation.
Prosecutors might have hoped to induce Peterson into making damaging statements that the wiretaps would pick up, Assistant San Francisco District Attorney James Hammer has said.
On Feb. 1, Frey called Ellsworth and Scott Peterson nine times for a total of 91 minutes, and dialed her police handler, detective Jon Buehler, 19 times on calls that lasted a total of 61 minutes.
That was the day that Frey explored arranging a lie-detector test for Peterson, according to sources. They said Peterson apparently offered to submit to a polygraph, but that the plan never materialized.
Phone records from that same day show that Frey twice called Melvin King, a former Fresno police lieutenant who operates a polygraph and private investigation service. King has refused to discuss the calls.
The reporters can be reached at
gstapley@modbee.com jcote@modbee.com or (209) 578-2300.