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1 posted on 10/06/2003 3:25:35 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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Yes, while everyone has their attention diverted, Davis lets it be know he is ordering boxes and shredders to vacate, and no one is paying attention to what is going on in and around the voting booth.

The Republicans and those who plan to vote for "recall" better keep a watch on making sure that the place where the real action will count is protected from the lying cheating liberals.
2 posted on 10/06/2003 3:34:38 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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4 posted on 10/06/2003 3:36:22 AM PDT by truthkeeper
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There should always be a paper trail in something this important. Paperless voting will eventually lead to some very strange situations. It is just a matter of time. The decision-makers have been razzle-dazzled by the high-tech advocates and the hardware/software salesmen, or worse, some of them may be knowing-participants in the scam.
6 posted on 10/06/2003 3:51:29 AM PDT by DefCon
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Activists are demanding that ballot machine vendors include printers that produce paper receipts so citizens can confirm that paper results match their touch-screen choices. Receipts would go into a county lock-box for use in recounts.

For the life of me I don't understand why we would accept anything less. There has to be SOME paper trail!

7 posted on 10/06/2003 3:56:55 AM PDT by truthkeeper
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Face it folks, many of us don't have the intelligence to nod our collective heads up and down to signify yes, never mind touching a computer screen to vote.

It's time to go back to the piece of paper and draw a picture of the guy or gal you are voting for.

Don't worry if the election officials will recognize who you have drawn.

They are trained professionals and will decipher it for you.

9 posted on 10/06/2003 4:01:10 AM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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http://www.equalccw.com/dieboldtestnotes.html

This link will prove interesting reading. I have verified the info with an install of the software...
10 posted on 10/06/2003 4:06:51 AM PDT by beaware
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The Democrats dont want electronic voting to really work - they want people to have doubts about any election results that they don't win, whether it's electronic or paper. If they can't win, they poison the winner one way or another.
11 posted on 10/06/2003 4:13:03 AM PDT by afz400
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Researchers found it was theoretically possible to insert "back doors" into software code that would allow hackers -- or insiders -- to change future voters' choices and determine the outcome.
My first experience with e-vote and CNN insiders showed me in one second all the "benefits" :
1998 - CNN poll - should NATO attack Yugoslavia ?
After the poll was displaying ca. 80 NO -20 Yes for hours, one minute later it started displaying 49-51 ...
The software was obviously not yet designed for progressive fraud, so they still had to use a real-time fix ...
12 posted on 10/06/2003 4:17:05 AM PDT by Truth666
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Which are the other 3 counties besides Riverside County ?
13 posted on 10/06/2003 4:27:17 AM PDT by Truth666
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Being an engineer, I have no faith whatsoever in electronic voting.
15 posted on 10/06/2003 4:47:06 AM PDT by DB (©)
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I concur with the opinions expressed so far. Without a paper trail to verify the vote, the system is ripe for fraud.

When Computer Science PROFESSORS express concern . . . folks, there's something to be concerned about.
21 posted on 10/06/2003 5:17:15 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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The concern of Dill and some of his colleagues was dismissed as overblown and irresponsible by county registrars and executives at the companies that sell and update the electronic voting machines.

No bias there, no sir-ee. Lots of technical background, too, I'm sure.

26 posted on 10/06/2003 5:33:24 AM PDT by FourPeas (Syntax, schmintax)
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Hillary pulled ahead of her competition who was running ahead of her in the polls right up until the week before the election.

Voters should protest these machines. There is not much telling how many of these bums are sitting in office right now due to vote fraud in one form or another, these machines make it that much simpler. Funny how the Republican's don't seem to be all that intent on mending the problem, I would think it would be a top priority.
29 posted on 10/06/2003 5:58:46 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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Given system access, any decent hacker could "rearrange" election results easily.

I suspect that the Democrats are already doing it. They have been busily stealing elections for a long time now (the 1960 presidential election comes to mind, but that wasn't the first one they stole, and the 2000 presidential election comes to mind, but that wasn't the last one they tried to steal).

We need to be auditing the Left carefully. And we're not. Never ever ever trust them.
32 posted on 10/06/2003 6:49:19 AM PDT by Steely Glint ("Communists are just Democrats in a big hurry.")
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34 posted on 10/06/2003 8:48:02 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Bookmarked, for when the Dems argue the exact opposite side next November.
35 posted on 10/06/2003 8:49:27 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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Audit trail?

What about the hard drive?
39 posted on 10/06/2003 9:44:03 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Activists are demanding that ballot machine vendors include printers that produce paper receipts so citizens can confirm that paper results match their touch-screen choices. Receipts would go into a county lock-box for use in recounts.

BZZZZZZZZZZT! Hold it right there.

If a paper ballot is printed and placed in a box, then THAT is the ballot that must be counted, regardless of whatever was input into the machine.

There could always be a slight of hand from someone with a preprinted ballot in their hand that they place in the box. Such a mismatched ballot would "invalidate" the computer tally because there would be guaranteed to be a mismatch between some entries and the computer tally.

If voters are not smart enough to look at their ballot for any hanging chads (I've never seen one, even when I tried to dimple a ballot) then they most certainly won't reread the printed out card before putting it in the box.

Also, the term "touch screens" here is misleading. This is not just an issue with "touch screens" but all electronic ballot boxes (including those that use dial input devices).

41 posted on 10/06/2003 1:01:54 PM PDT by weegee
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Hackers are going to love touch screen ballots!
43 posted on 10/06/2003 1:09:07 PM PDT by LittleJoe
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