Plenty of irony in Plame affair

Manchester Union Leader ^ | October 5, 2003 | Bernadette Malone

[livius]

even after the CIA fell down on the job before 9/11, it continues to take short-cuts in the War on Terror.

Yes! Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if Novak had gotten her name from some relatively high-ranking type in the CIA itself.

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[Just mythoughts]

Looks like Mr. Wilson was a mole from the beginning has been found out to be a mole and now he seeks to divert attention away from being a mole.

Now the BIG question that must be answered WHO did Mr. Wilson meet with that sent him on his "sweet-tea" sipping trip?

Mr. Wilson says he does not know who sent him and would not recognize them if he met them on the street. Were these people in disguise or was he behind a two way mirror, and who did he report to with his findings that CIA used to discredit British INTEL?

[Shanty Shaker]

The CIA forgot that they are not policy makers. They are not elected official with the luxury of directing the course of the country. This story begins to touch on the issues that show that this is a story that will eventually take down Tenet and many others at the CIA. It probably will reach deep into the state department as well.

[mewzilla]

I've got one more question: Who was the Beeb's CIA source for their yellowcake stories?

[independentmind]

William Kristol has written recently that the CIA is in open revolt againt the administration and that Bush is facing a civil war within his own government.

Bush needs to clean house at the CIA, and he should have started when he first took office.

[prognostigaator]

re: mole = Wilson

"The fact that Wilson’s wife was a CIA officer is newsworthy, because it tells Americans that even after the massive intelligence failure of September 11, "......the CIA may be making decisions based on politics and personal ties instead of what’s best for the country."

Although Wilson claims that he "offered" to go to Niger on assignment "pro bono" and that he only received expenses , chances are he received a nice lump sum in an off shore checking account.

Could this be why Mrs. so called Secret Agent Man was outed? That someone in the CIA who was not a 'mole' and had the best interests of the US Treasury at heart was aghast at the sum of money Wilson did receive for "sipping sweet tea" at government expense?

[mass55th]

"But let’s not be naive and accept Joe Wilson’s tripe about the White House wanting to endanger his wife as payback for his criticisms."

If the White House was in the business of paying back all the people who've come out against their policies, they'd be too busy to conduct the war and reconstruction of Iraq, not to mention run the country.

[Just mythoughts]

Not sure yet that the MRS. was outed, considering Mr. Wilson placed her name in the public in "02". Maybe he outed her in bragging about who he knows and what he has done.

The objective here was to discredit British intel and yet an "operative's" husband, a political former ambassador hack is who gets sent.

This does not pass the smell test, so what the .e!! is going on and that is why the "WHO" sent him if so very important to find out.

The very idea that the WH should not be asking questions about intel is very telling. WHO is in charge?

This also exposes why the lying liberals were demanding special union protection under the HOmeland Security Act, protecting their OWN within that new agency.

[Calvin Locke]

...if Novak had gotten her name from some relatively high-ranking type in the CIA itself.

I have been several references to Wilson mentioning (bragging?) that his was worked for the CIA at cocktail parties.

[Ben Chad]

I have been several references to Wilson mentioning (bragging?) that his was worked for the CIA at cocktail parties.

Uh, could you run that past me one more time?

[GailA]

A "DEMONRAT" one at that.

[AF68]

Bush needs to clean house at the CIA, and he should have started when he first took office.

President Bush needs to clean the Clintonistas out of the State Department, Pentagon and FBI, too. Hundreds of new low-level jobs need to be created in broom closets at these agencies. They've shown that they are more interested in bringing down the president than protecting America.

[Calvin Locke]

What? You can't read my equivalent of hanging chads?

(Sorry, didn't have any coffee yet.)

There have been reports of Wilson bragging that his wife worked for the CIA. Before the Novak article.

Attention seeking still, obviously.

[nwrep]

Bush needs to clean house at the CIA

Do you understand the difference between political appointees and career bureaucrats? Your statement indicates you do not. You cannot just "clean house" of civil servants who disagree with you.

[independentmind]

You do not need to explain the difference between a civil servant and a political appointee to me. Have you ever heard of the expression "tone at the top?" Perhaps you don't understand the concept.

[norton]

Maybe we need a Department of Reconsideration, or Department of Paranormal Prognostication, some place where errant careerists could be assigned to stare at peeling wallpaper and submit finely edited white papers on their efforts to readjust mind waves into some useful purpose.

Cutting most government staff by about half would probably improve their performance, especially if it was the right half left to do the job.

[csmusaret]

The Novak article was published in July. Why did it take so long to become such a big deal?

[CROSSHIGHWAYMAN]

Both the State Department and CIA should be cleaned out.