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Arnold is No Bill Clinton
NewsMax.com ^ | Sunday Oct. 5, 2003 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 10/04/2003 11:06:42 PM PDT by jmstein7

Now that nearly a dozen women have stepped forward to accuse California gubernatorial front-runner Arnold Schwarzenegger of groping them, Democrats and their media friends are brimming with comparisons to Bill Clinton.

But are the allegations against Schwarzenegger and Clinton at all similar? Not really. In fact, they're not even close.

Nothing that Arnold stands accused of comes remotely close to the charge by Juanita Broaddrick, who was subjected to a thorough FBI investigation and vetted by NBC News for a full five weeks before the network would even consider broadcasting her account of a sexual assault by Mr. Clinton.

The encounter, by the way, left Broaddrick not merely humiliated, as so many of Arnold's accusers say there were, but, instead, bruised and bleeding.

Compare the meticulous investigation that the Clinton accuser was put through to the way allegations against Schwarzenegger are now being rushed into print.

The New York Times, for instance, reported late Friday, "Gail Escobar, a waitress in Santa Monica, accused Mr. Schwarzenegger of threatening to rape her 25 years ago."

After covering the charge, however, the Times admitted, "It was impossible to verify the accusation by Ms. Escobar, who was joined by a representative of the A.F.L.-C.I.O., which supports Mr. Davis. Nonetheless, the woman was mobbed by reporters."

Why is the press covering an accusation that it acknowledges is "impossible to verify" - especially one that's so potentially incendiary?

Broaddrick, after all, had five witnesses who corroborated her story, including one who saw her minutes after the attack and described to NBC her torn pantyhose and bruised face.

Ms. Escobar is the only one to use the "R"- word in connection with Arnold, and then only to describe a taunt that was not acted upon.

Mrs. Broaddrick, however, isn't alone in accusing Mr. Clinton of a violent sexual assault.

In his 1996 Clinton biography "Partners in Power," award winning author Roger Morris reported:

"A young woman lawyer in Little Rock claimed that she was accosted by Clinton while he was attorney general and that when she recoiled he forced himself on her, biting and bruising her.

"Deeply affected by the assault, the woman decided to keep it all quiet for the sake of her own hard won career and that of her husband. When the husband later saw Clinton at the 1980 Democratic Convention, he delivered a warning. ‘If you ever approach her,' he told the governor, 'I'll kill you.'

"Not even seeing fit to deny the incident, Bill Clinton sheepishly apologized and duly promised never to bother her again." [End of Excerpt]

While Arnold now admits he engaged in boorish and offensive behavior, not a single accusation leveled against him approaches the egregiousness of the attack described above.

Some Schwarzenegger critics prefer to ignore the Clinton assault charges altogether, and instead draw a comparison between the GOP front-runner's actions and what the ex-president did with Paula Jones.

But even this misses the mark by a substantial margin.

In a story similar to that told by some of Arnold's accusers, Jones says she was groped by the future president in a Little Rock hotel room in 1991. But that wasn't the main offense.

According to the affidavit filed by Jones in 1994, after Clinton groped her, he "approached the sofa and as he sat down he lowered his trousers and underwear exposing [himself] and asked Jones to 'kiss it.'"

Jones refused, drawing this reaction from the future president, according to her affidavit:

"Clinton, while fondling [himself] said: "Well, I don't want to make you do anything you don't want to do."

Jones, by the way, told lawyers she didn't bolt from the room earlier because she knew Clinton's bodyguard was standing outside with a gun.

Arnold may have indeed groped and grabbed his way through his movie days, but his accusers' complaints pale next to Paula Jones' lurid account, not to mention the accusations of Juanita Broaddrick and the "young woman lawyer in Little Rock."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas; US: California
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To: Ol' Sparky
Character matters. It mattered with Clinton and it matters with Schwartenegger.

In California? One could only hope.

21 posted on 10/04/2003 11:43:33 PM PDT by watchin
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To: Ol' Sparky
Character matters. It mattered with Clinton and it matters with Schwartenegger.

It matters a helluva lot more in a President than in a Governor. But truth be told, if our politicians lowered my taxes (significantly this time), trashed all our draconian gun laws, stopped giving foreign dicatators billions of American taxpayer dollars, and in general descreased both the size and scope of gov't, it wouldn't bother me too much if every last one of them were adulterers.

23 posted on 10/04/2003 11:50:41 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: PRND21

25 posted on 10/04/2003 11:53:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: PRND21
Don't bother with this guy, he is "popping popcorn" among other things.
26 posted on 10/04/2003 11:54:33 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: jmstein7
Now that nearly a dozen women have stepped forward to accuse California gubernatorial front-runner Arnold Schwarzenegger of groping them, Democrats and their media friends are brimming with comparisons to Bill Clinton.

What the supporters of Bill Clinton are saying is .. It's ok to rape a women .. but if you grab her breast .. then you need to go to jail

28 posted on 10/04/2003 11:55:34 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: DoughtyOne
Many of our bitter FR Consevatives are actually bitterer Democrats.
29 posted on 10/04/2003 11:57:37 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Mo1
What the supporters of Bill Clinton are saying is .. It's ok to rape a women .. but if you grab her breast .. then you need to go to jail

Exactly. ....and it's ok to lie under oath as well.

30 posted on 10/04/2003 11:59:48 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: jmstein7
Anybody who is pro-homosexual and pro-abortion is a liberal. Period. If they can't see what is so obviously wrong with these moral questions, their lack of sound judgement is staggering, and they will more often than not make decisions that hurt and destroy people's lives. I don't care who they say they are, or what they claim to be, that is the litmus test to determine a liberal!
32 posted on 10/05/2003 12:05:47 AM PDT by Russell Scott (Without massive intervention from Heaven, America doesn't have a prayer.)
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To: Russell Scott
Anybody who is pro-homosexual and pro-abortion is a liberal

Define "pro".

33 posted on 10/05/2003 12:06:54 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: PRND21
The thought has crossed my mind.
34 posted on 10/05/2003 12:09:41 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: goldstategop; jmstein7
<< Arnold has done nothing remotely comparable to what Bill Clinton did. And he never raped a woman and told her afterwards to "put some ice on it." >>

Nor was Mr Swartzenegger ever sent down [Expelled] from a British University for rape, as was the KKKoccaine-trafficing traitor, the Mao-Tze-Tung-KKKloned predator serial-rapist, KKKli'toon.
37 posted on 10/05/2003 12:32:24 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: jmstein7
Important perspective from Larry Nichols on the smear campaign against Arnold...


Larry Nichols

LIMBAUGH----SCHWARZENEGGER----BUSH; WHAT HAVE THESE THREE MEN GOT IN COMMON?

Wow! What a week! You can bet that things are heating
up so let's take a look together at the signs and how
they are interrelating to each other.

Let me start with the last one first, President
George Bush. Right now, G.W. Bush is the President and
Hillary Clinton desperately wants to be the next
president.

Now you should understand why the flap over the
White House supposedly releasing the name of the wife
of a former Clinton Ambassador as being an agent for
the CIA creates a purposeful problem.

Second, now why is releasing her name not the real
trick? Is it because of the fact that the Republicans
used a special prosecutor to dog Bill Clinton when he
was President? Fact of the matter is that in this
case, the Clintons will use this very story to force an
Independent Council to go after President Bush and as a
result of that very investigation, Bill Clinton will
not be perceived quite so badly in the eyes of his
beholders. Bush, having now recognized the Clintons'
plot to perpetrate schemes upon him and the Republican
Party realizes now, that the same trick was pulled on him.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is probably the name that would,
at first glance, seem to be the one most out of place.
Not so fast. he is running for Governor of California
and the Clintons have been working desperately to keep
Gray Davis in office. Hillary needs to carry
California if she expects to win the Presidency in
2004. They need that State held together by the
Democrats to pull if off. This is not to say that even
if they have Arnold Schwarzenegger as the new
Governor that they cannot still hold that State
together for her, but it would be real easy if Davis
stays in.

Arnold Schwarzenegger, as you should now know, has been
attacked for supposedly groping six (6) women in his
past. I do not know if he did or he did not but he did
apologize to somebody publicly. However, it was the
fact that his story broke just one week before
the election, which of course, was just in time to
cause people to think about how bad a person he must be
and to maybe re-consider voting for him, but not enough
time for him to respond and to prove that the stories
might be over stated, and that he might not really
be that bad of a guy. This trick is absolutely,
positively vintage Clinton.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is in the way of Hillary Clinton
as she is running for President in 2004.

Rush Limbaugh was one of two people Bill Clinton was
referring to as part of a group of people involved
in "Hate-Radio". Limbaugh constantly attacked and
galvanized his audience against Clinton during his
terms as President. You can bet that the Clintons have
been waiting to slam Limbaugh before Hillary gets into
the race for President in 2004.

By the way, the National Enquirer is the publication
that has broken the story about Limbaugh and a possible
prescription Drug Problem. In case you do not know,
the attorney for the Enquirer is one of Clinton's big
buddies.

Pretty slick trick, in one week Slick Willy has trashed
all three of the people in Hillary's way as she seeks
the Presidency. The only problem is that I am the only
one who seems to have noticed.

By the way, remember before when I told you that
Limbaugh was one of two people Clinton blamed for all
of the "Hate-Radio", well the other person was me. I
do not need to tell you, I figure they have got
something really special waiting for me and will
probably honor me with giving me a week all to myself.
You can bet it will be special and it will get plenty
of coverage by the main stream media. That in
itself, will be interesting since they will not cover
what I am saying about her-yet!

Oh Yea, I sure hope you don't still doubt that
Hillary's running and with these tricks out, I can tell
you she will be announcing sooner than later now!


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38 posted on 10/05/2003 1:42:43 AM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: Tamsey
If the voting statistics don't change, every candidate in the future is going to have to grope, maul, and fondle to get the women's vote. Ahnold's popularity with the woman voter has increased since revelations of his dastardly deeds, according to the polls.
39 posted on 10/05/2003 3:07:47 AM PDT by meenie
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To: jmstein7
OK, let's talk GROPE. I've never been groped by Clinton, Davis, or Arnold. But, Clinton and Davis GROPED my hard earned income and it hurt. Still hurts and will continue to hurt me and my family until these VILE GROPING DEMOCRAT SLEAZES get the BOOT.

Clinton and Davis have paved their livelihoods on the backs of tax payers and public dole. They have proven track records which show dereliction of duty, negligence in repsonsibility and abuse of their elected government positions.

They really have no redeeming track record to defend so hence their only option is to smear, and attack. Basically puking on all that confront and oppose them.

Clinton and Davis are major GROPERs when it comes to pandering for the hispanic vote by opening up our borders to illegal aliens and giving them high fives for their illegal activites by awarding them benefits that citizens earn.

So, you want to talk about GROPE! Arnold hasn't even begun to GROPE, nor do I think he will if he gets the opportunity to lead California.

40 posted on 10/05/2003 8:31:58 AM PDT by harpo11 (Dump the Pukenater and Hire the Governater!)
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