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War of Words Mark Protest
The Yuma Sun ^ | Oct 4, 2003 | Louie Villalobos

Posted on 10/04/2003 8:49:40 AM PDT by GoRepGo

Chris Simcox said the only way to resolve the illegal immigration issue is through a level-headed discussion, but the yelling that started off Friday's protest was anything but.

More than 50 people stood in front of the Yuma County Courthouse Friday evening to listen as two anti-illegal immigration groups voiced their disapproval of how Alexander Dumas and Matthew Hoffman are being treated by the court system.

Both men will be sentenced on Wednesday after pleading guilty to conspiracy to detain the six illegal immigrants.

But before anyone could lend their support to the men, a very loud argument broke out while several Yuma Police officers watched.

On one side was Simcox's Tombstone-based Civil Homeland Defense, the California-based American Civil Responsibilities Union and several locals. On the other side were three members of the Tucson-based Humane Borders group and local resident Jesus Landeros, who kicked off the yelling.

"Are we going to be able to go to the river without being bothered?" Landeros said, referring to the possibility that Yuma County will soon have a citizens' border patrol group. "If it wasn't for the wetbacks, their wouldn't be any lettuce pickers."

While Landeros was booed and laughed at, Howard Garber, president of the ACRU, fired back.

"When you come over the border that way, illegally, it's a crime," Garber yelled. "To stay here illegally is another crime. And our government is doing nothing to stop it. Why don't you go back there if you like Mexico so much?"

After a few more minutes of yelling, both sides eventually calmed down and the official protest was allowed to begin.

Garber was first to speak and said Dumas and Hoffman were getting railroaded by the court system and were tricked into a plea bargain with the Yuma County Attorney's Office, which he said promised the men probation.

Now, he said, family members are worried Dumas and Hoffman will be given jail time because of political pressure put on the judge by local anti-Dumas and Hoffman groups.

"I think we ought to all make sure we stay until the very end and let the judge know that he's not going to be a dictator and he's not going to let the justice system here intimidate them."

Garber encouraged attendees to create a plaque honoring Hoffman and Dumas' actions and said they should be considered heroes, not criminals. That drew cheers from the crowd and Simcox, who then offered the opportunity to create a local patrol group.

But before Simcox could talk to the crowd, the debate was resurrected.

"You just want to make name for yourself, that's all," Landeros shouted to Garber.

That comment drew a response from a man identified only as Roy, who was handing out flyers that show a Mexican man standing on a corner and states he is looking for a job, his wife is receiving free medical treatment and his four sons are gang members.

The man in the flyer is identified as "Good 'Ol Harmless Pedro."

"That's Pedro over there," Roy said while pointing to Landeros. "There's 11 million over here that aren't doing a damn thing."

After that, Simcox stepped in and showed the group pictures of some of the more than 1,600 illegal immigrants his group has turned over to Tucson Border Patrol agents.

He said locals fed up with the government's failure to secure the country's borders should tell everyone from local officials to the President of the United States of their anger. Then he took questions from several local residents who expressed interest in creating a local patrol.

"When another community along the border rises up to take this job into their own hands, that will send a message to President Bush and Governor Napolitano," he said. "Governor Napolitano should be recalled immediately for not putting the National Guard on our border."

--- Louie Villalobos can be reached at lvillalobos@yumasun.com or 539-6858.

© Copyright, YumaSun.com


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: acru; arizonachd; illegalaliens; protest
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1 posted on 10/04/2003 8:49:41 AM PDT by GoRepGo
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To: GoRepGo
Listen up President Bush. You leave policing the borders to the citizens, because you refuse to obey and enforce your own laws. Now you condone the arrest and confinment of US citizens who are doing your job, while illegals are left to go free and break our laws. What the hell country are you living in?
2 posted on 10/04/2003 8:59:29 AM PDT by ampat
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To: All
Hi mom!
3 posted on 10/04/2003 8:59:56 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: HiJinx; gubamyster
ping
4 posted on 10/04/2003 9:08:46 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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Ain't it wonderful that good 'ol Jorge speaks spanish so well, so he doesn't need a translator to give the country away?:
"Mi Casa Blanca es su Casa Blanca, mi país es su país, mi dinero de ciudadano es su dinero de ciudadano, mis trabajos de ciudadano son su ciudadano, mi mejor amigo."

5 posted on 10/04/2003 9:40:57 AM PDT by putupon (Previous trolls need not reply.)
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To: GoRepGo
Did they arrest the "undocumentd workers" these guys caught?
6 posted on 10/04/2003 9:43:27 AM PDT by Redcoat LI ("If you're going to shoot,shoot,don't talk" Tuco BenedictoPacifico Juan Maria Ramirez)
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To: GoRepGo
The irony of a man like Alexander Dumas, who wrote such memorable classics as The Count of Monte Cristo and The Three Musketeers, being jailed in Yuma, Arizona for opposing illegal immigration is tremendous.

But the irony of the United States government criminally failing to defend our borders and spending more effort fighting its citizens is far, far greater.

At some point, it ceases to be our government. Have we already passed that point, or are we about to?

7 posted on 10/04/2003 10:04:53 AM PDT by Imal (I set my browser to "Maximum Sarcasm", then broke off the knob.)
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To: Redcoat LI
According to a previous article printed in the (liberally biased) Yuma Sun, and as incredible as it sounds - there are/were plans to bring the illegals back over to Yuma to testify against Hoffman and Dumas.
8 posted on 10/04/2003 10:06:21 AM PDT by GoRepGo (gag)
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To: GoRepGo
conspiracy to detain the six illegal immigrants!

You have got to be kidding. What next "conspiracy to detain murder suspect ? conspiracy to detain criminals ------you fill in the blank ?

9 posted on 10/04/2003 10:09:35 AM PDT by justrepublican
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To: ampat
Bush's abject failure to stop this illegal invasion is simply unbelieveable. I thought he was of sterner stuff. Illegals, especially those from Mexico, have utterly destroyed whole areas of the United States. And it isn't just the American Southwest that has been ruined; parts of Northern Illinois are almost as bad off, as Mexican gangs control entire communities, and the G--damn liberals in state and municipal government turn a blind eye towards it. I have become a stranger in my own G--damn country!
10 posted on 10/04/2003 10:53:49 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: justrepublican
dumbfounding, isn't it?...
11 posted on 10/04/2003 10:56:13 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Imal
But the irony of the United States government criminally failing to defend our borders and spending more effort fighting its citizens is far, far greater.

At some point, it ceases to be our government. Have we already passed that point, or are we about to?

Yes and yes. Hard to believe even after 9-11 this is still happening. What's it going to take for Washington to wake up?!!?

12 posted on 10/04/2003 11:00:20 AM PDT by Ferret Fawcet ("A wise man's heart inclines him toward the Right, but a fool's heart...to the Left" ~Ecc. 10:2)
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To: Ferret Fawcet
I was called by a female fundraiser for the Republican Party yesterday. She told me how much they needed my money to defeat RATS. I told her I want to defeat RATS very much, but could not bring myself to contribute any money until the Administration does something to stop illegal immigration. She told me that several people had said the same thing to her. I asked her to pass the message along upline until maybe Rove et al may get the message. I suggest that all of the Freepers do the same through emails and calls to reps and senators as well as to Pres. Bush.
13 posted on 10/04/2003 11:58:45 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus (RATs are scum!)
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To: Imal
"At some point it ceases to be our government. Have we already passed that point, or are we about to?"

I am starting to think that we are already passed that point. The fact that that so-called "Freedom Ride", which insulted all Americans and was an extreme slap in the face to Black Americans, was allowed to proceed without incident proved to me that we are no longer a nation. There no longer is ANY rule of law in what was once America and the lunatics are running the asylum.
14 posted on 10/04/2003 12:06:25 PM PDT by vikingcelt
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To: GoRepGo
Unfortuneately for all of us that does not sound incredible at all.
I wish these guys luck.Too bad they pled out,given popular sentiment on this issue I would have taken my chances with a jury.
15 posted on 10/04/2003 2:35:20 PM PDT by Redcoat LI ("If you're going to shoot,shoot,don't talk" Tuco BenedictoPacifico Juan Maria Ramirez)
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To: GoRepGo
Unfortuneately for all of us that does not sound incredible at all.
I wish these guys luck.Too bad they pled out,given popular sentiment on this issue I would have taken my chances with a jury.
16 posted on 10/04/2003 2:35:24 PM PDT by Redcoat LI ("If you're going to shoot,shoot,don't talk" Tuco BenedictoPacifico Juan Maria Ramirez)
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To: GoRepGo
Unfortuneately for all of us that does not sound incredible at all.
I wish these guys luck.Too bad they pled out,given popular sentiment on this issue I would have taken my chances with a jury.
17 posted on 10/04/2003 2:35:25 PM PDT by Redcoat LI ("If you're going to shoot,shoot,don't talk" Tuco BenedictoPacifico Juan Maria Ramirez)
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To: putupon
Aprenda Espanol hoy, evite la prisa manana!
18 posted on 10/05/2003 12:46:26 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Aprenda Espanol hoy, evite la prisa manana!

¡Convengo, tiempo estoy funcionando brevemente! ¡Agradezca a dios que tenemos lecciones del Internet para libre!

Enmienda XXVIII al Contitution:

Todos los leyes futuros serán escritos en español, todos los leyes escritos en inglés precediendo esta enmienda, serán hechos cumplir solamente en esos ciudadanos llevados dentro de las fronteras de los Estados Unidos que hablan inglés como primero lengua.

Enmienda XXVIV al Contitution:

No se hará cumplir ninguna ley, inhibiendo la libertad movimiento a través o dentro de las fronteras de, de la deportación de, o del empleo dentro de los Estados Unidos, hasta el segundo martes de la semana próxima.

19 posted on 10/05/2003 5:18:42 AM PDT by putupon (Los trolls anteriores no necesitan contestar.)
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To: putupon
My second novel, "Domestic Enemies," is going to be set in "Nuevo Mexico" after that state is taken over by MEChA radicals in rigged elections. Their first new law will be "Solo Espanol."
20 posted on 10/05/2003 10:31:03 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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