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Limbaugh mute on drugs, little else
Atlanta Journal Constitution ^ | October 4, 2003 | ROBERT P. KING

Posted on 10/04/2003 3:56:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

http://www.intrepidsoftware.com/fallacy/welcome.php

The above link is a gift to all you guys that have a real intrest in learning something about logic.

The rest of this is for the assistance of the blamebrains out there.
In reading the articles presented by the Enquirer et al there are a multitude of logical errors, Begging the question, amphiboly, composition and inconsistency being just a few.

An example of pulling one of these apart follows:

Given: habituation results from chronic opiate/opiod exposure and the decreased efficiency in the end target cells.

Given: addiction: is dependence on a substance in this case opiods because not having them produces with drawal symptoms. Addiction is associated with drug seeking behavior, escalating doses not for pain relief but for stimulation of the m1 (Mu 1 the receptor resposible for the experience of euphoria) receptors in the brain.

Given: people that are addicted can take staggering amts of pills. (Mentioned by one poster sighting an addiction researcher is 100 tabs of oxycontin daily.)

Given:antimicrobials, diuretics, nsaids, salicylates, aminoglycosides, antineoplastics, heavy metals can cause hearing loss.

Given: People who are addicted and require 100 tabs of narcotic a day are obsessed with the behavior of acquiring more drugs, experiencing and sustaining the euphoria along with avoiding the pain of withdrawal..


Statement: Rush has hearing loss and some drugs cause hearing loss therefore Rush has taken oxycontin or hydrocodone.
error: Opiate drugs do not cause hearing loss.

Statement: Rush had surgery, Rush took pain meds after surgery therfore Rush is addicted to pain meds.
Error:The vast majority of people that have surgery and take pain meds do not become addicted. Addiction to narcotics when used for pain management is the exception.

Statement: Rush displayed compulsive drug acquiring behavior in sleeping on his tablets, buying multi year supplies of the drug therefor he must be an addict.
error in internal contradiction: Rush is compulsive about preparing for his show, copious reading and preperation and in preparint thoughtful, concise coherent responses to the news and to callers. The clear thought of his daily performance to 20m listeners weekly is inconsistent with the lack of clear thought, the obsession of being laid back and euphoric demonstrated by addicts.

Statement: Ms Cline told the Enquirer Rush bought in excess of 44k pills therefore she told the police the same thing.
Error. Assumption. Ms. Cline could have told the police she was employed by Rush and everything told to the Enquirer is completely made up. There is no information on what she told the police other than the police saying Rush is not the target of the investigation.

Enough of the logic lession , you get my drift anyway and I'm not trying to write a book.

I do have one other observation, The street value of oxycontin is $1 per miligram. There are regional variances. The minimum mg per tablet is 10 mg but it goes up to 180mg in a tablet. Assuming his purchase of a minimum of 44k tabs street value would be 440k. Why aren't the police intrested in him. This is a major drug ring. Also wouldn't it be just like Rush to get one hell of a deal on illicit narcotics by buying bulk. The only money amts I have seen that implicate Rush is 2 transfers of 100K each. 50% off sale with his dealer...




101 posted on 10/05/2003 1:19:59 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TasmanianRed)
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To: PMCarey
Any intelligent lawyer is going to advise his client to remain silent. You may not like it, but it's the only prudent course. It doesn't tell us one thing about the probability of his guilt.

Celebrities are constantly accused by the tabloids of doing all sorts of things. But tabloids can't do anything to you. They can't fine you. They can't jail you. You can respond to them or ignore them as you please. You don't need a lawyer to defend yourself against tabloid journalists, but you might want a lawyer to go on the offensive against them. There's absolutely no reason to remain silent in the face of their charges, and you can deny them as loudly as you wish.

On the other hand, if you suspected that you might be the target of a criminal investigation, you might want to say as little as possible.

102 posted on 10/05/2003 4:50:17 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: Matchett-PI
Funny, I listened to Rush on Friday and heard a scared man that fears someone has him on tape ordering massive quantities of Hillbilly Heroin.

I think the reason Rush refuses to talk about it is if he denies it all, then a tape of him doing the deed is released on the Internet, all of his credibility is shot.

103 posted on 10/05/2003 5:05:25 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: Devil_Anse
The puffiness in JFK's face was caused by cortisone. His medical use of that drug was public knowledge. His recreational drug use was another matter.
104 posted on 10/05/2003 5:05:55 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: kaylar
How on earth could anyone expect Limbaugh to discuss the drug allegations , when anything he says on air could come back and bite him on the *** in a court of law? He has to remain silent for now! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

CNN already did that. They used a quote of his from 2 yrs ago talking about all the drugs the Drs had him on, trying to stop the autoimmune inner ear disease that destroyed his hearing.
105 posted on 10/05/2003 5:22:50 PM PDT by GeorgiaYankee (Most dangerous place in America: Standing between Joe Wilson and a TV camera!)
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To: buffyt
The Left hates Justice Thomas more than they hate Rush.
106 posted on 10/05/2003 6:23:08 PM PDT by des
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To: Pelham
I don't recall that his illnesses, such as Addison's Disease, were public knowledge in 1961-63. Are you saying, OTOH, that he and his physician had announced to the world that he used cortisone (not saying that that is used for Addison's disease, presume it was used for injuries Kennedy'd had), back in the years he was president, or before? The drug my father mentioned I can't remember exactly; don't think it was cortisone. All I know is, my father was an expert on many drugs and illnesses and I trust his judgment.

107 posted on 10/05/2003 9:08:13 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
I had to take cortisone in those years for kidney disease, and I recall being aware that JFK had to use the same drug. I'm sure it's that coincidence which impressed such an obscure fact on my memory, although I don't remember where I heard it. I think he was said to be using it for a back injury he sustained in the PT109 incident.
108 posted on 10/06/2003 10:20:44 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: Devil_Anse
His first name is Jeff and he was involved with an internet based talk radio effort that didn't make it. Now he is back with Rush.
109 posted on 10/07/2003 11:31:05 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Devil_Anse
James Golden, I think.
110 posted on 10/07/2003 11:32:35 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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