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Talks on Capitol Hill to Regulate Tobacco Industry Break Down
Smoke Club Newsletter ^ | 10-2-03 | By Kelley Beaucar Vlahos.

Posted on 10/03/2003 10:06:10 AM PDT by SheLion

Talks in Congress to regulate the tobacco industry broke down Wednesday along partisan lines, making it highly unlikely that new restrictions would be imposed on the cigarette industry anytime soon.

Lawmakers had been close to passing legislation that not only would have ended unpopular tobacco subsidies, but also would have allowed government control over tobacco products for the first time.

But Democrats said late Wednesday that regulations that would have handed the Food and Drug Administration (search) oversight of cigarettes were not strong enough.

"Unfortunately, the proposed legislation which Republicans put forth today falls far short of the strong FDA authority which is needed to effectively do the job," said Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., the leading Democrat on the health committee. "A weak bill is worse than no bill at all because it would give the public a false impression that their health was being protected."

The House and Senate had been close to voting on bills that would have ended Depression-era tobacco farm subsidies that lawmakers have described as archaic and harmful to the farming communities in several states that grow tobacco.

Farming quotas -- which dictate how much tobacco a farmer can grow and the subsidies given in return -- have been slashed by 50 percent over the last several years due to the decline in demand for cigarettes and foreign competition on the international market.

Paid for by a five-year annual assessment on manufacturers that import tobacco, the buyout would pay for both farmers leaving the tobacco business and those choosing to continue growing the crop on their own.

"The tobacco support system is "outmoded and not practical anymore," Rep. Mike McIntyre, R-D-N.C., told Foxnews.com, explaining that the government began controlling the production of tobacco farming in the 1930s to ensure stable payments to farmers for their crops.

"You can imagine what would happen if your income were cut in half," said Rep. Mike McIntyre, D-N.C., whose district has been devastated by the declining tobacco industry. "And they still don’t know if it can be cut further."

McIntyre joined Rep. Ernie Fletcher, R-Ky., Rep. Virgil Goode, R-Va., and Rep. Bob Etheridge, D-N.C., in introducing a bill last month to end the subsidies with a $15.7 billion buyout.

While the House had not planned to include FDA legislation in the bill, Sens. Judd Gregg (search), R-N.H., the chairman of the Senate health panel considering the legislation, and Mike DeWine, R-Ohio, had agreed to marry the FDA authority to a bill proposed by Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., that would have allowed a $13 billion buyout.

Calling the FDA proposal a "bitter pill for this senator to swallow," McConnell said in a recent floor speech that support from the senators and the health community behind FDA regulation would be necessary to end the subsidies once and for all.

"That is simply a reality which we confront today," he said, noting that linking the two measures together would create "a formidable coalition here in the Senate across an ideological divide to move us in the direction of achieving both these goals."

House aides had said that similar FDA legislation would likely have remained in final legislation written when negotiators from both chambers met in conference. That way, the bill would have had a better chance of passing in the House, but would also have satisfied lawmakers who wish to see greater regulation of tobacco products.

But when Senate Democrats saw Gregg's final proposal, they said that the provision that allowed only Congress to ban cigarettes was so vaguely written it could have prevented the FDA from requiring changes to make cigarettes safer.

"The vague language was a loophole that could prevent FDA from taking any steps to reduce the harm caused by tobacco," said Matthew Myers, president of the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids.

"We’re not willing to support FDA regulations that are too weak," said Allison Dobson, spokeswoman for Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, before the final legislation was offered. "I think there are a lot of senators who feel strongly that this shouldn’t be a sham."

Mark Berlind, a lawyer for Philip Morris parent company Altria, rejected the criticisms. He said health groups wanted the FDA to be able to ban tobacco products, something that was in a previous bill sponsored by Kennedy.

"We're disappointed that these talks broke down over a last-minute insistence that FDA be able to ban all cigarettes for adults," Berlind said.

Jacob Sullum, editor of Reason magazine, added that the public health lobby is "never satisfied." He said that he thinks the latest attempt to regulate tobacco is just another boondoggle for government.

"This is more than [the public health lobby] dreamed of years ago, but they are still not happy," Sullum said, referring to the 1998 tobacco settlement with the states in which the cigarette makers were forced to pay hundreds of billions of dollars for state programs as well as comply with new marketing and promotion standards.

Other areas of disagreement include how far states should be able to go in setting their own restrictions on the industry and whether tobacco companies can be sued for failing to adequately warn people about smoking hazards.

This latest effort by lawmakers to regulate the tobacco industry was the most serious in years. Whereas a buyout of tobacco-growers was an unpopular suggestion five years ago, it had recently been embraced by farmers and lawmakers alike as the only solution to their ongoing financial woes.

Philip Morris USA, the nation's largest cigarette maker and a major campaign contributor, had also recently reversed its previous position and endorsed FDA regulation, even though would be getting hit twice in the pocketbook -- once for the buyout, another with the oversight fees.

Smaller companies like R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Holdings, Inc., say they will be financially ruined by both the buyout and the oversight measures.

Smaller cigarette makers will likely be squeezed by the new rules, said Sullum, who added, "The cost will be passed on to consumers."

But lawmakers say the move was necessary to help the ailing farming community as well as provide regulations aimed to protect the public health.

The FDA asserted authority over cigarettes in 1996, but the Supreme Court later ruled that only Congress can give the FDA that power.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
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To: TKDietz
Who funded the studies that linked cigarette smoking to lung cancer? People who have an agenda against cigarettes, that's who. Why were the links between lung cancer and radon not reported AT THE SAME TIME? Why aren't links between cigarette smoking and beta brain waves discussed more frequently? Why aren't the desensitizing effects of tobacco on reactive airways noted as beneficial? Why are the long-term results of a huge study of second hand smoke NOT reported? Why are smokenazis out to scrub the atmosphere of private businesses free of every molecule of cigarette smoke?

Why is the hereditary link to COPD ignored, and nearly all COPD blamed on smoking? Why is there no money from the tobacco settlements for new treatments for lung cancer and COPD? After all, that's the argument...why is the Framingham horizontal study of heart disease and high cholesterol not getting more attention (and BTW, high cholesterol is hereditary too...)? Why INSTEAD, are heart disease, lung cancer and COPD blamed on smoking? My father had COPD from his work in the Navy during the second world war, and exposure to toxins there--at the age of 21! He continued to smoke until his early 50s, and was no worse off then than when he left the service.

Who was the president's wife who banned smoking in the White House? Hillary Clinton. Who was the dictator who predated your prejudice against cigarette smoke by 50 years? Hitler.

You don't like the smell of smoke. I do. You don't like yourself smoking. I do. You don't want to consider any but your point of view--the point of view of Hillary Clinton and Adolf Hitler. I do. You ignore any "research" that doesn't support your position. I don't.
141 posted on 10/06/2003 4:09:04 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Cyanide, mercury, and botulinum toxin are medically and industrially useful friends to mankind.)
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To: cinFLA
Eeeuww ....

Real mature. Great reasoning. Really smart post.

NOT!

142 posted on 10/06/2003 4:11:11 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Cyanide, mercury, and botulinum toxin are medically and industrially useful friends to mankind.)
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To: MrLeRoy
but IMO dependence is what most people have in mind when they talk about "addiction,"

I don't give a "hoot" what most people have in mind, because "most people" have been programmed to believe that all the words mean the same - therefore the "belief" is worthless.

and I'm not at all sure why someone who recognizes the similarity between the War On Tobacco and the War On Drugs is bringing it up.

I only mentioned it because of your chart on "dependence." If a comparison of "drugs" is going to be made, then associated consequences also need to be compared. whether it be nicotine, alcohol or cocaine.

143 posted on 10/06/2003 5:22:04 PM PDT by Gabz (Smoke-gnatzies - small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: TKDietz
But trying to convince the non-smokers out there that smoking isn't such a bad thing isn't going to win you any points.

You have obviously not read many of my posts, because I have never done any such thing.

You aren't suggesting that cigarettes aren't physically addictive are you? If they are only "habituating" then how do you explain the strong physical withdrawal symptoms I have personally experienced?

You apparently have a different bodily chemistry than I do, I have never had any physical withdrawal symptoms whengoing without smoking. In fact I find it more difficult to go without my moring coffee than going without a cigarette.

It seems that cigarettes were addictive to you, but are not to me. Isn't it amazing what propaganda can do to one's thought processes????

Do you work in or somehow profit from the tobacco industry or are you just trying to justify your own bad habit?

Not that it is any of your business, but the answer to your inquiry to my financial stake is a resounding NO. But it is nice to see that you acknowlege that smoking is just a "bad habit."

My arguement against the 450,000 number has nothing to do with whether smoking is a good thing or a bad thing - my arguement is that I have a problem with the government, that I am paying for, is lying in order to promote and justify behavior modification of law abiding adults. If you think the government (in whatever form) is justified in lying about smoking, I have to assume you will go along with any other lies the government promotes in its effort to control behavior. But I so do despise making assumptions.

144 posted on 10/06/2003 5:36:13 PM PDT by Gabz (Smoke-gnatzies - small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: cinFLA
Unlike MrLeroy, I oppose the legalization of crack, cocaine, heroin and other hard drugs.

But you do support and endorse the government forbidding private business owners to permit the use of tobacco products in their establishments because you don't like it.

145 posted on 10/06/2003 5:38:32 PM PDT by Gabz (Smoke-gnatzies - small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: cinFLA
Then you have no problem restricting smoking on public roads and sidewalks?

Isn't it enough most of think you are a jackazz, do you need to repeatedly prove us correct?????

I'll make you a deal - the day you start working to repeal current and oppose proposed indoor smoking bans in private establishments, I will stop fighting any and all outdoor smoking bans.

Based on your track record around here, I don't see myself stopping my fighting anytime soon.

146 posted on 10/06/2003 5:42:53 PM PDT by Gabz (Smoke-gnatzies - small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: cinFLA
Eeeuww ....

And your problem is, what????????

That I smoke or that I am not your particular poster child of a drug-crazed-nicotine-addict that has to have it's fix every 2 minutes?????

147 posted on 10/06/2003 6:03:04 PM PDT by Gabz (Smoke-gnatzies - small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: Gabz
the "belief" is worthless.

Not sure what that means---but I'm pretty sure it's irrelevant to my point that "cigarettes are more addictive than cocaine or heroin" is not misleading to the general public given their understanding of the term.

148 posted on 10/07/2003 5:52:27 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: Gabz
Just noting your hypocracy.
149 posted on 10/08/2003 11:18:01 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: MrLeRoy
It must be nice to be paid to post your propaganda.
150 posted on 10/08/2003 11:24:45 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
It must be nice to be paid to post your propaganda.

I wouldn't know, since I'm not paid to post.

151 posted on 10/08/2003 12:01:52 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (Call me Diogenes---I'm still searching for an honest Drug War defender.)
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To: MrLeRoy
I wouldn't know, since I'm not paid to post.

Really! Are you saying you are NOT paid while posting? Are you retreating from your privious post?

152 posted on 10/09/2003 8:37:58 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
I wouldn't know, since I'm not paid to post.

Are you saying you are NOT paid while posting?

I am paid while posting but NOT paid TO post.

153 posted on 10/09/2003 9:13:22 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: cinFLA
Yeah, what was that you were saying about Soros sending YOU a check?
154 posted on 10/09/2003 3:02:13 PM PDT by xrp
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