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A Deplorable October Surprise (Susan Estrich re: LA Times)
LA Times ^ | 10-03-03 | Susan Estrich

Posted on 10/03/2003 4:08:49 AM PDT by veronica

So this is the October surprise? The Los Angeles Times headline that Arnold Schwarzenegger groped and humiliated women?

None of the six women interviewed by The Times filed legal charges. Four of the six were quoted anonymously. Of the two who were named, one, a British television hostess, had told her story to Premiere magazine years ago, and it has been widely known and largely ignored. The other recounts an alleged incident of fondling at Gold's Gym nearly 30 years ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ccrm; groper; octobersurprise; presstitutes; recall; schwarzenegger; sillyseason; smear; susanestrich
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To: veronica
As a professor of sex discrimination law for two decades and an expert on sexual harassment, I certainly don't condone the unwanted touching of women that was apparently involved here. But these acts do not appear to constitute any crime, such as rape or sodomy or even assault or battery. As for civil law, sexual harassment requires more than a single case of unwelcome touching; there must be either a threat or promise of sex in exchange for a job benefit or demotion, or the hostile environment must be severe and pervasive.

But none of these women, as The Times emphasizes, ever came forward to complain. The newspaper went looking for them, and then waited until five days before the election to tell the fragments of the story.

What this story accomplishes is less an attack on Schwarzenegger than a smear on the press. It reaffirms everything that's wrong with the political process. Anonymous charges from years ago made in the closing days of a campaign undermine fair politics.
61 posted on 10/03/2003 7:00:31 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: Tamsey
Thanks for the ping!
62 posted on 10/03/2003 7:00:38 AM PDT by EggsAckley (..........................all my pings are belong to ......YOU.....................)
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To: monocle
Susan redeemed herself last night on Hannity & Colms, in Philly. If you didn't see it, you really missed her spoken truth about what is going on now!
63 posted on 10/03/2003 7:04:39 AM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: EggsAckley
Heads up....On Fox a reporter just said the guy who made the notes about Schwarzenegger's alleged "Hitler" comment said the media is taking his notes about that comment out of context.

Who woulda thunk?
64 posted on 10/03/2003 7:06:22 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: esopman
Bubba is done, then -- he apparently raped Juanita B twice!
65 posted on 10/03/2003 7:08:07 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: veronica
Klinton rapes two women, is involved with numerous others and possibly involved in the deaths of many others. And he gets.............a free pass.

Hmmm
66 posted on 10/03/2003 7:09:00 AM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism: A failure every time it is tried!)
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To: veronica
Has the LA Times EVER printed any story about Clinton raping Juanita B?

(Last I heard - that story had NEVER RUN in the LA Times, and had been spiked (concealed!) by CBS through the entire impeachment period while the rest of the news DELIBERATELY ignored it since it was a CBS "exclusive" that they "did not want to break first.....)

Yet CBS waited and delayed the program, then didn't even report it on their OWN SHOWS for weeks AFTER the Sunday night show.
67 posted on 10/03/2003 7:10:44 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: redlipstick
Excellent news!

You have Freepmail :-)
68 posted on 10/03/2003 7:11:58 AM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: finnman69
See my question, reply nbr 67.

Why the fervor over this, when the Wiley charges and Clinton(and Air Force fondling, and numberous other "bimbo" incedents) were ignored?
69 posted on 10/03/2003 7:12:39 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: EggsAckley
But of course :-)
70 posted on 10/03/2003 7:12:42 AM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: cb
Yes -- start with the Baldwin brothers and the Sheens.
71 posted on 10/03/2003 7:12:55 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: Tamsey
LATimes going down with gray and the democrats. Worse than disgusting --- they're evil. Both of them.
72 posted on 10/03/2003 7:13:39 AM PDT by onyx (Ask the Indian$)
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To: veronica
Susan has to say this because she, a rape victim, defended The Rapist.
73 posted on 10/03/2003 7:14:22 AM PDT by doug from upland (Why did DemocRATS allow a perjuring rapist to remain in the Oval Office?)
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To: veronica
The LA Times printed it huh?
74 posted on 10/03/2003 7:15:01 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: Tamsey
Let's see: the last time I said a Susan Estrich column was a "must-read" was....

Oh, wait.

NEVER.

But this one is!

Dan
75 posted on 10/03/2003 7:18:27 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: William McKinley
I had to go to the grocery store this morning (still half asleep). While I was there, it hit me. Yesterday was the political equivalent of "shock and awe", thrown at us by the Democrats and their media cohorts.

Three major fronts opened this week. One, of course, wasnt planned and was a bonus for the left; Rush's gaffe on ESPN. But the other two were timed and planned for release this week. The CIA thing is the other attack. My theory is that the left is doing it to foil Arnold AND water down anything Mr Kay, the weapons inspector, might have had to say..

The left has truly adopted an "attack at all costs" mentality. And why not? They have no message, no money and no credibilty. Since they cant get anything down electorally (is that a word?), they have resorted to the smear.

76 posted on 10/03/2003 7:20:35 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Hillary and Clark rhymes with Ft Marcy park...)
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To: Tamsey
Thanks!

You get the puppy...

77 posted on 10/03/2003 7:21:06 AM PDT by EllaMinnow (Life is too important to be taken seriously.)
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To: All
you can read the article here w/o registering

http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/showcase/la-oe-estrich3oct03.story
78 posted on 10/03/2003 7:21:56 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: autoresponder; veronica; yall
This was in the old days, before her 'makeover' I think ...


Susan Estrich: What's she saying?
Just imagine the sound of fingernails on a blackboard !


79 posted on 10/03/2003 7:28:54 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: redlipstick
What's this I hear about Davis physically abusing his staff (a la Hillary), the LASlimes has had the story for awhile and is covering it up? (I read that in another post somewhere.) Why aren't they printing THAT little nugget of character? Oh, that's right, he's a Dem. They get free passes on this stuff.
80 posted on 10/03/2003 7:34:46 AM PDT by alwaysconservative ("If you can't change your mind, are you sure you still have one?" Maxine)
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