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U.S. Initial Jobless Claims Rise to 399,000 as Companies Hold Off Hiring
Bloomberg ^ | 10-02-03

Posted on 10/02/2003 5:34:23 AM PDT by Brian S

U.S. Initial Jobless Claims Rose by 13,000 to 399,000 Last Week Oct. 2 (Bloomberg) -- The number of Americans filing initial applications for unemployment benefits rose last week, the government reported, a sign that economic growth has yet to boost demand for workers.

First-time claims during the week that ended Saturday totaled 399,000, an increase of 13,000 from a revised 386,000 a week earlier, the Labor Department said in Washington. The department said about half of the rise came from workers who had been unable to submit claims during Hurricane Isabel.

Companies trying to hold down costs have been reluctant to add to payrolls, instead using gains in efficiency to meet demand while the expansion gains momentum. The economy may have grown in the July-September quarter at the fastest pace since the first three months of 2002, according to a Bloomberg survey.

``The overall message we're getting is that the labor market is still struggling,'' said Doug Porter, a Toronto-based senior economist at BMO Nesbitt Burns Inc., the investment bank, before the report. ``The figures are consistent with no improvement in the trend.''

The number of people continuing to collect state unemployment insurance rose by 62,000 to 3.67 million in the week that ended Sept. 20. The level was the highest since June 28 for continuing claims, which are reported with a one-week lag to initial claims.

The insured unemployment rate, which tends to move with the monthly jobless rate, stayed at 2.9 percent in the week before last. During that week, 10 states and territories reported an increase in new claims, and 43 reported a decrease. The decline included a total reduction of almost 10,000 for North Carolina and Virginia, where Isabel had struck.

Higher Than Forecast

Economists estimated that claims would rise to 395,000 from the initially reported 381,000 the week before, based on the median of 37 forecasts in a Bloomberg News survey.

The four-week moving average of initial claims, a less volatile measure than the weekly number, fell to 403,500 from 408,500.

Tomorrow, the Labor Department is expected to report that the unemployment rate increased in September to 6.2 percent from 6.1 percent, based on the median of 64 forecasts in a Bloomberg News survey. The rate has exceeded 6 percent since May. Payrolls are likely to have fallen for the eighth month in a row.

Productivity expanded during April-June at more than triple the pace of the first quarter, government figures show. The economy may have expanded at a 4.5 percent annual rate in the third quarter, the most since the early last year, based on the median of forecasts in a Bloomberg News survey.

Impact on Spending

For the expansion to be sustained, companies will need to start adding workers, economists said. Otherwise, consumer spending will retreat when the extra cash from recent tax cuts and mortgage refinancing dwindles.

``If we don't see an end to job losses by the end of this year, then everyone will be marking down their growth forecasts for next year.'' Mark Zandi, chief economist at Economy.com, an economic forecasting and consulting firm in West Chester, Pennsylvania, before the report.

A ``notable'' risk to the outlook for improvement is ``that household spending could lose its forward momentum, particularly if there is no job growth,'' said Michael Moskow, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, in a letter published yesterday in the bank's ``Executive Update.''

Ford Motor Co., the world's second-biggest automaker by sales, said yesterday it will cut as many as 3,050 jobs in North America by the end of the year, part of an effort by the Dearborn, Michigan, company to reduce global personnel costs 10 percent.

Safeco Corp., a Seattle-based home and car insurer, said it plans to sell its life insurance and asset-management unit and shed 500 jobs.

Yesterday, the New York-based Conference Board's said its consumer confidence index fell in September to the lowest level since the U.S. went to war against Iraq six months ago, as more people voiced concern over jobs.

Some economists expect companies to start hiring before year- end.

``As the economy continues to pick up speed, firms should begin to increase their hiring,'' Moskow said.

Growth is forecast at a 3.8 percent annual rate in both the first and second quarters of next year.

Last Updated: October 2, 2003 08:30 EDT


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; US: North Carolina; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: bushrecovery; hurricaneisabel; jobmarket
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To: Texas_Dawg
Is having or not having a job EVER your responsibility or fault... or is it always someone else's? Man... what a way to live.

Speaking from personal experience, most of the terminations at my current employer have been nothing more than extremely bad judgement on the part of management. Now they have their panties in a bind. Due to ass-covering by upper management, there aren't enough people to do the actual work and there are way too many execs pulling down six (or seven) figures. This spells doom for a publicly owned company, but I guess to you that's just fine. In your twisted world of "management is always right", corporate executives are divine beings who never make mistakes, instead of what they trully are: people who often have gotten where they are by kissing someone's arse.

You post as if you belong to this species. Keep posting. Your theory of corporate infallibility is funny.

41 posted on 10/02/2003 6:54:59 AM PDT by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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To: Texas_Dawg
Give it a rest china dawg. The public is waking up to the harm that free traitors like you have done gleefully to the American middle class. The employment numbers for the past three years are unbelievably bad, thanks to unfair trade practices and currency manipulation from your two favorite countries China and India.
42 posted on 10/02/2003 6:56:33 AM PDT by fortaydoos
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To: Consort; Lazamataz
I suspect if the job picture suddenly turns around and companies pull back on the offshoring you'd see a happier more optimistic Laz. There's nothing wrong with being disatisfied with the current employments trends and corporate America's indifference to those who made their companies great in the first place.
43 posted on 10/02/2003 6:58:53 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: Lazamataz
I have a nose for these disruptors. I can catch their scent better than most. Texas_Fraud is one such troll.

My sentiments exactly. Watching the lunacy, I am reminded of Terry McCauliff brushing off criticism of his $18M Global Crossing profit by saying: "Hey, man, it's capitalism. If you don't like it, move to Cuba."

44 posted on 10/02/2003 6:59:46 AM PDT by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Yeah, ignoring bad news makes it go away, right?

I proposed a dedicated forum for it. Does that equate to ignoring it to you?

45 posted on 10/02/2003 7:00:50 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
Texas_Fraud has been suspended for calling me a racist without any basis whatsoever.
46 posted on 10/02/2003 7:01:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: RockyMtnMan
I suspect if the job picture suddenly turns around and companies pull back on the offshoring you'd see a happier more optimistic Laz.

I wanna be that happier, more optimistic Laz I was in 2000. I wanna love Bush and enthusiastically throw my support behind him. I wanna return to that happier time. I really do.

47 posted on 10/02/2003 7:02:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Lazamataz
Texas_Fraud has been suspended

Please don't tease me.

48 posted on 10/02/2003 7:02:52 AM PDT by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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To: RockyMtnMan
There's nothing wrong with being disatisfied...

Welcome to the club; we are all disatisfied with it.

49 posted on 10/02/2003 7:03:22 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Lazamataz
Ditto
50 posted on 10/02/2003 7:03:59 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: Brian S
Alas, but our beloved President Bush is toast.

Get used to seeing a demorat in the White House.

And the hell of it is, the fix we are in is due to the policies of klintoon.

51 posted on 10/02/2003 7:05:32 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Hillary for dog catcher. I met her once, she might be qualified to catch dogs.)
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To: Lazamataz
Just checked his account. Yep, he's a gonner. It's too bad. He was so much fun.
52 posted on 10/02/2003 7:06:12 AM PDT by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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To: Lazamataz
You mean, we don't get to see Texas Dawg's continuing joy over the loss of American jobs to Red China and India? Darn!

(GRIN)

53 posted on 10/02/2003 7:06:49 AM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: Consort
I'm doing something about it. I'm trying to create jobs. If that's "being gloom and doom" then more gloom and doom, baby.

Someone has a job because of my company. Someone makes money because of me. I'm contributing to this economy and making it better. If you're doing that, then let's talk business. If not, then get the hell out of the way. I'm here to make things better. You are here trying to shut me up.
54 posted on 10/02/2003 7:08:43 AM PDT by dandelion
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
And the hell of it is, the fix we are in is due to the policies of klintoon.

The bigger hell of it is that a Dem will now swoop in just as the effects of the H1-B cap reductions take effect, claiming Dem policy has saved the job market. Sigh. GWB could have fixed this mess last year by revoking ALL foreign work visas.

55 posted on 10/02/2003 7:09:14 AM PDT by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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To: Lazamataz
Wow, Texas Dawg was a du troll?
56 posted on 10/02/2003 7:10:41 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Hillary for dog catcher. I met her once, she might be qualified to catch dogs.)
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To: Consort
People express themselves in different ways. Online forums do not offer a glimpse into a posters daily outlook outside of the given topic.

Correctly identifying a significant negative trend and tracking it over time may seem doom and gloom but it's akin to monitoring a critical care patient. You want them to recover but you still watch their progress closely. For many, reporting the patient's progress makes them feal like they are helping the recovery process by providing the latest vitals. I am in the same camp by the way.
57 posted on 10/02/2003 7:11:41 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: Lazamataz
Texas_Fraud has been suspended

After reviewing his history here, I now agree whole heartedly with your conclusion that he was a disruptor. I believe he was playing the part of "the evil capitalist", but couldn't contain his liberal impulses in response to your comments about China.

58 posted on 10/02/2003 7:15:20 AM PDT by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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To: dandelion
You're mixing apples and oranges when you mention creating job and defending doom and gloom in the same breath.

I'm doing something about it. I'm trying to create jobs.

Bravo...very positive.

If that's "being gloom and doom" then more gloom and doom, baby.

No bravo...negative. Apples and oranges.

59 posted on 10/02/2003 7:16:48 AM PDT by Consort
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To: RockyMtnMan
Correctly identifying a significant negative trend and tracking it over time...

Yes, you mentioned that the other day and it's a good point and doesn't carry the baggage of a doom and gloom mindset or hint at an agenda, political or otherwise, IMO.

60 posted on 10/02/2003 7:26:03 AM PDT by Consort
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