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LOBBYING FAILS, H-1B VISA CAP FALLS to 65,000
TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 01, 2003 12:53:47 PM ]via India TImes ^ | OCTOBER 01, 2003 12:53:47 PM | K YATISH RAJAWAT/ECONOMICTIMES.COM

Posted on 10/01/2003 9:39:39 AM PDT by 11th_VA

MUMBAI: The annual cap for H-1B visas will now be 65,000. This is a sharp drop from the earlier limit of 195,000 visas.

The US plans to enforce this rule from October 1, 2003.

The Indian IT industry has been lobbying hard to freeze H-1B visa limits at current levels. However, these efforts which had the support of some US corporations to retain H-1B visa limits have failed. (Will Europe be the next big hunting ground for Indian IT pros?)

Indian IT professionals are among the largest users of H-1B visas, as US Big Tech shops big from this technical pool. The H1-B visa cap was raised to 195,000 in 02. This particular legislation had a 'sunset' clause. According to this clause, the limit would have (automatically) lapsed on October 1, 2003. Ergo, the H1-B visa annual cap will now fall back to 65,000 visas.

The H1-B visa issue has generated a lot of controversy in the US. Several trade unions representing (local) technology workers have been lobbying against these work permits. The slowdown in the high-tech industry combined with an overall drop in US economic growth has resulted in a number of job losses.

H1-B visa users have been at the receiving end of criticism from unemployed American professionals for taking away their jobs. These visa users are also seen as representative of the trend towards offshore outsourcing trade jargon for moving to cheaper locations like India which is also under flak for spiriting away US jobs.

The visa was created in the early 1950s to give skilled foreign workers a permit to reside in the United States. The H1-B category was added in 1990 to give foreign workers an opportunity to pick up a job with the intention of remaining permanently in the United States.

In 1999, under pressure from high-tech companies and other manufacturers, Congress expanded the limit from 65,000 to 115,000. It raised the cap again to 215,000 in 00 and to 195,000 in 01 and 02.

Top Indian companies have been curtailing the use of H1-B visas for sending employees to the US. Ergo, it unlikely that the offshore outsourcing trend will be affected. Most companies have shifted to the use of L-1 visas (used for intra-company transfers). However, companies whose basic revenue model is supplying manpower to US corporations, ( body-shoppers, are likely to be hit by this move.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gat; h1b; h1bvisas; immigrantlist; l1visas; nafta; onetermpresident
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To: Texas_Dawg
I'm for tariffs/taxes on foreign consulting companies that benefit from bringing foreign nationals in to reap the benefits of our society with none of the pay-in. Sure.

I'm also for immigration, as long as the people coming in have some hurdles to overcome such as: having a marketable skill so they are able to contribute to society instead of being a drain.

The important point is this: In order for capitalism to work, everyone needs to be on an even playing field. Other countries don't feel obliged to look out for our best interests in this, so we have to. Once the playing field is even, capitalism will be able to even out the other differences.
101 posted on 10/01/2003 10:37:37 AM PDT by Egon
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To: Bikers4Bush; Lazamataz; Texas_Dawg
Actually this is what I think he really is:


102 posted on 10/01/2003 10:37:48 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: Texas_Dawg
Just like you and whoever you support for President

Ummm, yeah. Sure. Whatever.

103 posted on 10/01/2003 10:38:11 AM PDT by riri
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To: adam_az
China_Dawg employs many fallacies in his arguments. I had to educate him on the Fallacy of the Undistributed Middle recently. I'll be damned if the man ever drove by a college campus, much less stopped in.
104 posted on 10/01/2003 10:38:15 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Lazamataz
Our current immigration levels are just fine, China_Dawg. Besides, I understand Mainland China is getting much more livable these days. Why would you want to come here?

It's kind of funny when someone is so throughly beaten in an argument that they have to look for ulterior motives in someone and then convince themselves that the person is something other than they are. It's hard to argue for socialism over capitalism, as you do, especially given what we saw in the 20th Century. But, hey, keep trying. That's never stopped you national socialists and your democratic socialist counterparts.

105 posted on 10/01/2003 10:39:02 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Paleos and Naderites: anti-war, anti-capitalism, anti-Bush. And the difference in these 2 is what??)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Clearly they aren't worth what they are being paid once they are open to competition. That's pretty lame.

Watch it. Your compassionate non-conservatism is showing.

I would love to see these Indian's come in and clean your clock in governmental securities trades. Somehow I don't think we have long to wait.

106 posted on 10/01/2003 10:39:54 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Don't get mad. Get madder!)
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To: raybbr; Lazamataz; Bikers4Bush; Texas_Dawg
Sorry, a little vague there. I meant that Dawg is a Troll-Dawg.
107 posted on 10/01/2003 10:39:59 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: Lazamataz
BTTT
108 posted on 10/01/2003 10:40:00 AM PDT by Lion in Winter
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To: Texas_Dawg
Like I say and you don't deny, you're not a believer in capitalism, so naturally I wouldn't expect you to understand why capitalism is superior to socialism (subsidized industries, etc.).

I see, so one has to believe first in order to understand.

109 posted on 10/01/2003 10:40:07 AM PDT by A. Pole ("Is 87 billion dollars a great deal of money? Yes. Can our country afford it?" [Secretary Rumsfeld])
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To: 11th_VA
Is this 65,000 more people a year?
110 posted on 10/01/2003 10:40:19 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Texas_Dawg
What are you smoking today? Not only is that NOT an answer to my question it's a total 180 from what I even stated.
111 posted on 10/01/2003 10:40:42 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: Egon
The important point is this: In order for capitalism to work, everyone needs to be on an even playing field.

Wow. You really need to go learn what capitalism is, what it does, and how it works. Everything else you posted in that post is pure federal totalitarianism and everything BUT capitalism.

112 posted on 10/01/2003 10:40:52 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Paleos and Naderites: anti-war, anti-capitalism, anti-Bush. And the difference in these 2 is what??)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Dixie Chicks would be ashamed you're from China!
113 posted on 10/01/2003 10:40:58 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Far out, man!)
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To: Texas_Dawg
I think you need to go study what is meant by economic efficiency. (And if even then you wanted to argue these company owners are making inefficient purchases with their money, how totalitarian can you get that you want to ban them from doing so?)

My apologies. I didn't realize English wasn't your native language. Since I don't speak Mandarin (I doubt you speak Cantonese), you'll just have to try a bit harder.

Please address the three questions I asked you in #66 above.
114 posted on 10/01/2003 10:41:56 AM PDT by pyx
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To: Texas_Dawg
It's hard to argue for socialism over capitalism, as you do,

MCDP #2-A.

.... That's never stopped you national socialists... .

MCDP #2-C.

Meaningless China Dawg Points

  1. You don't have an economics degree, so please don't talk about economies at all. It just makes you look stupid.
  2. You are a typical: A) Marxist Leninist Communist; B) Totalitarian; C) Nazi.
  3. We're all doomed!
  4. More people in America out of work means more stock profits, and my company will pay me more if the stock market goes up. Since it's all about me, I don't care if the rest of you all go to hell.
  5. How about that Bama/Arkansas game?
  6. You must be a Bush Hater. I don't care if we lose your vote. Good riddence.
  7. How much do you want to bet that Bush will win? I will wager up to 1000 yuan.
Kindly print this out and when you need to make another China_Dawg cliched post, you can simply refer to the appropriate number. We'll all know what you mean, and reading your tripe will go much more quickly.
115 posted on 10/01/2003 10:42:25 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: pyx
Please address the three questions I asked you in #66 above.

Let me guess... you work in IT too.

116 posted on 10/01/2003 10:42:45 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Angry uneducated people are really funny.)
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To: riri
It's a freakin' personality cult with you people.

Exhibit A: California Recall threads.

117 posted on 10/01/2003 10:42:54 AM PDT by jmc813 (How ironic is it that Arnold turned out to be the spoiler?)
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To: Texas_Dawg
I'm just wondering when Admin Moderator is finally going to get wise to your trolling ways and pull your plug.
118 posted on 10/01/2003 10:43:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Ignore the individual from Texas.

If the sun came up tomorrow and America looked and smelled like India or Mexico, and had 400 million more people here, our friend from Texas would be thrilled, as long as they could buy a pair of tennis shoes for $4.95.

119 posted on 10/01/2003 10:43:56 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Lazamataz
You forgot the one about the white 'Murricans

I forget exactly how it goes. He tends to go on sprees using some more than others.

120 posted on 10/01/2003 10:44:02 AM PDT by riri
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