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Radio host infuriates cyclists
The Raleigh News & Observer ^ | 10/1/03 | BRUCE SICELOFF

Posted on 10/01/2003 6:49:41 AM PDT by Hatteras

Radio host infuriates cyclists

By BRUCE SICELOFF, Staff Writer

G105 radio host Bob Dumas told listeners last week that he just hated to see bicycle riders on the road. He laughed at stories about running cyclists down, and he talked up the idea of throwing bottles at bikers. It wasn't funny to cycling enthusiasts across the Triangle. This week they are lobbying government officials and local advertisers in a campaign to punish radio station WDCG and its corporate owner, Clear Channel of San Antonio, and to promote bicycle safety."One caller said her dad had purposely hit a biker on the road on the way to church one Sunday and kept on going," said G105 listener Holly N. Proctor of Cary on Tuesday of the Sept. 21 and 22 broadcasts. "That got laughs. Bob thought that was funny.

"And Bob said he'd love to be on a motorcycle and driving it down a bike lane. Because he didn't think bikers should be allowed on the road. He said they should ride on the sidewalk," she said.

Proctor, a photo technician at N.C. State University, joined two dozen fellow cyclists at a 5 p.m. protest outside the radio station's offices in North Raleigh.

Tom Norman , director of the N.C. Division of Bicycle and Pedestrian Transportation , said that reports about the broadcasts revealed dangerous ignorance of state law.

"I have talked to the G105 manager, who was not aware that it is legal to ride bicycles on the public roadways of North Carolina, that cycles are legally recognized as vehicles in North Carolina," Norman said. "Where do you draw the line? What is the distinction between humor and actually inciting or encouraging listeners to harass a group of people?"

Kenneth C. Spitzer, the station manager, declined to provide tapes or transcripts of the broadcasts to Norman or to a Capital Area transportation planning committee that discussed the controversy Tuesday.

In e-mail responses to several Triangle area residents who complained to the station, Spitzer said the "Bob and Madison " show aims to entertain listeners with "animated banter ... that can be both humorous and caustic." But he said some comments last week "went too far, and for that we sincerely apologize.

"Be assured that G105 does not advocate harm to cyclists," he wrote.

G105 is the third Clear Channel station to draw fire in the past four months for on-air comments perceived as advocating violence or animosity toward bicycle riders. Officials at WMJI in Cleveland and KLOL in Houston apologized in July and September for similar remarks. They agreed to broadcast "share the road" messages and to finance bicycle safety campaigns.

Leaders of the N.C. Bicycle Club outlined requests they said would help Clear Channel "mend relations with Triangle bicyclists," including similar public safety campaigns and a detailed apology.

Spitzer declined to comment. A corporate spokeswoman to whom inquiries were directed Tuesday did not return calls.

Members of area cycling clubs have shared copies over the past week of protest letters to the Federal Communications Commission, to state and local prosecutors and to G105 sponsors. Several critics noted that G105 radio hosts have sparked controversy in the past with crude stunts.

"It's one thing to drive around with a naked man on the radio station's van," said Raleigh lawyer Kimberly Bryan. "To encourage citizens to harm cyclists, that has crossed a different line. It's irresponsible. It's not caustic, it's not banter, it's not funny."

David Smith , 38, a software developer at UNC-Chapel Hill, took it personally. His right forearm still bears the scar of an attack by an Orange County motorist who found Smith cycling down a rural road one afternoon in April 2001.

"How are people going to take this, what was mentioned on G105?" Smith asked. "Are people going to say, 'You know, I'm tired of these cyclists?' Is that situation going to exacerbate what happened to me, with somebody else coming down a back road?"

After running Smith off the road, the driver stopped, chased him down on foot and struck him with a hatchet, sending him into a ditch and over the handlebars of his wrecked bike. Marvin Glenn Manring of Orange County pleaded guilty in July 2001 to assault with a deadly weapon. He promised to enroll in an anger management program.

Staff writer Bruce Siceloff can be reached at 829-4527 or bsicelof@newsobserver.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bicycles; commuters; roadrage
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To: cyclotic
I have no problems with people who are safe and aware. I have as much patience as I can spare with the clueless newbies who don't know any better. It's the people that know better and still endanger others that piss me off.
Maybe I'm biased, but where I skate, most of those people are cyclists.
221 posted on 10/01/2003 8:28:32 AM PDT by Skip Ripley
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To: bk1000
Maybe you should be addressing that to me or ironman or RoughDoberman or bicycle thug - since Rebelbase has been saying pretty much the same thing you are. Maybe you should also try reading the thread - you having said anything new.
222 posted on 10/01/2003 8:28:39 AM PDT by olorin
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To: Xenalyte
I finally learned how to ass-tap over the weekend

If you had been hanging with me, you'd have learned that one years ago.

Heh heh heh heh.

223 posted on 10/01/2003 8:29:14 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Hatteras
In Colorado, cyclists have every right to be on the road as an automobile. Cyclists are required to observe all traffic laws for that reason. They are only required to be as far to the right as comfortable. I suspect that if traffic was held up it was due to driver's lack of confidence, rather than a lack of space. I have experienced similar backups while driving only to realize that it was a timid older driver who felt the need to take up half of the oncoming lane in order to pass the cyclist, when in reality, there was plenty of room to pass. As a driver, I get pissed when traffic is backed up due to two cyclists riding a side-by-side, in the roadway.

As a kid, riding with the traffic on my 20" single speed, I felt a rush of wind pass my ear. I looked up to see some idiot holding a pipe out of the window of a truck.

For the rest of my youth, I rode against traffic. Since cyclists are required to follow the traffic laws this is illegal, which is unfortunate, because the cyclist is putting his life in the hands of the drivers. Riding against traffic is tricky, however, when a driver is making a left turn - they are looking for oncoming traffic and won't see the cyclist riding against traffic until the last second, usually.

Recently, here in Summit County, Colorado, the letters-to-the-editor in the Summit Daily got a little heated over the issue of cyclists using roads versus bikepaths. There is a two-lane road over Dillon dam, in particular, that sparked debate. Anti-cyclists even went as far as to write that given the choice of a head on collision, taking a breath and slowing down or hitting a cyclist, they would hit the cyclist. Drivers felt that cyclists had no right to the roadway because there is a bikepath right next to it. When the newspaper ran a picture of the newly posted sign prohibiting cyclists from the roadway, you could see the bikepath in the background. The photo revealed why cyclists would use the roadway when a perfectly good bikepath ran alongside it - on the "bikepath" two pedestrians were walking, side-by-side, with a dog, taking up the whole bikepath.

I have ridden the exact same path many times and when approaching pedestrians, I yell out "hello" 20 yards, or so, in advance. One particular day, a woman with a particularly large posterior was walking alongside with her companion. When I yelled out "hello" she turned, looked at me and continued without making the slightest effort to move to the side. Needless to say, I made a very audible suggestion that involved characterizing her bundinghah as I rode past her.

224 posted on 10/01/2003 8:29:46 AM PDT by Nephi (Compassionate conservativism: Sure it's socialism, but what are you gonna do, vote for Nikita Dean?)
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To: Skip Ripley
Yeah, I was doing that because I know it really bugs you guys when people do that....

Yeah, sure. That's what you all say! ;-)

225 posted on 10/01/2003 8:29:55 AM PDT by RoughDobermann (Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: olorin
having = haven't
226 posted on 10/01/2003 8:30:05 AM PDT by olorin
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To: af_vet_1981
When I was a child I would ride for miles on streets with no helmet. Back then, what kids thought there were evil people behind the wheel that wanted to hit them ?

I had no license back then.

Or else you'd have needed your helmet.

AHHHHHMMMM a COMMIN FOR YA!!!!

227 posted on 10/01/2003 8:30:34 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Fresh Wind
"Motorists pay huge insurance premiums and lots of taxes for the use of the roads. Cyclists pay nothing, and they wonder why some motorists don't appreciate their antics."

Many cyclists are motorists too and pay for their cars. The only difference between them and you is you help the export/import balance of payment turn into a river of capital going to Middle Eastern states, and then whine because you are not respected for this unconditionally.

I bike year round, and I served my time in the military, and I pay taxes. Seems your whine has the oder of vinegar.

228 posted on 10/01/2003 8:31:15 AM PDT by bicycle thug (Fortia facere et pati Americanum est.)
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To: Lazamataz
And the leather hood?

uuummmmmmmmmmm......?????

229 posted on 10/01/2003 8:31:22 AM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: ironman
Skintight clothing serves a very functional purpose.

Plus it gets all the ladies.

Your home-clown comment is a cheap shot.


230 posted on 10/01/2003 8:32:11 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Nephi
"As a kid, riding with the traffic on my 20" single speed, I felt a rush of wind pass my ear. I looked up to see some idiot holding a pipe out of the window of a truck."

That was Servant of the 9 (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/992912/posts?page=129#118)
231 posted on 10/01/2003 8:32:40 AM PDT by olorin
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To: ArrogantBustard
I should clarify, in Minneapolis, there are a lot of paved paths just for cyclists and rollerbladers which circle lakes, and also run through the cities. This is where the speed limit applies. However, the bike lanes on the side of a road have have the same speed limit as the cars.
232 posted on 10/01/2003 8:32:56 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
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To: Fresh Wind
"Unfortunately, I would wonder whether any cyclist has ever been ticketed for this, or for running a stop light or stop sign"

Around here in Northern Virginia tickets have been issued to cyclists for running stops signs.

"Motorists pay huge insurance premiums and lots of taxes for the use of the roads"

I own a car too. I pay my taxes and my insurance. Some days I drive. Others I ride.
233 posted on 10/01/2003 8:33:11 AM PDT by ironman
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To: olorin
For those drivers who feel like taking out a little aggression on a cyclist I have one thing to say - concealed carry.

You little wimpy concealed carry guns shoots a bullet with maybe 500-1000 ft-lbs of energy.

My Dodge RAM carries 5 million ft-lbs of energy at decent speed.

You sure you want to try a stupid stunt with a pistol on the road ? Cycle all you want, don't be a d*ck in the middle of the road. If it's rush hour, get the h*ll out of the way.

234 posted on 10/01/2003 8:33:19 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Virtue untested is innocence)
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To: Geritol
Forcing the cars behind the bike to go at it's speed is not at all safe, especially for the cars at the rear of the line

That's true. But, if the cyclist is as far over to thr right as possible, the cars should be able to pass without slowing down.

235 posted on 10/01/2003 8:33:29 AM PDT by RoughDobermann (Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: Lazamataz
Alexadre Dumas smoked crack for two days straight before inventing that thing.
236 posted on 10/01/2003 8:33:40 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: olorin
"Ummm, I don't belong to a biking club."

Thats good. It means you are probably more inclinded to allow traffic to pass you rather than you taking up the whole lane.
237 posted on 10/01/2003 8:33:50 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: CygnusXI; olorin
I am also in Minneapolis. I love the great bike paths around here. The commuter paths, reginal trails, Hennepen park paths, paths around the lakes - Cedar, Calhoun, etc and other paths. I have been thinking of moving to North Carolina and I had told me my wife my number one selection criteria for the location WITHIN North Varolina would be the presense of biker friendly paths. This certainly makes NC seem like a bad place for a biker to go.
238 posted on 10/01/2003 8:34:03 AM PDT by artios
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To: Rebelbase
Have you even read any of this thread from the start?
239 posted on 10/01/2003 8:35:07 AM PDT by olorin
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To: ironman
Skintight clothing serves a very functional purpose.

Yes, it cuts through the wind. That's why you aren't a serious biker unless you shave your legs too. As leg hair can actually cause a drag against the wind and slow you down.

So shave your legs for maximum cutting edge speed......

240 posted on 10/01/2003 8:35:16 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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